[gatagato]

***UPDATE

Ireland allows`life saving' abortion bill
Abortion legal if mother's life is at risk

Lawmakers overwhelmingly voted Friday to back Ireland's first bill on abortion, legalizing the practice in exceptional cases where doctors deem the woman's life at risk from her pregnancy, as the predominantly Catholic country took its first legislative step away from an outright ban.

Exhausted legislators applauded Friday's 127-31 vote, while outside the parliament gates abortion rights activists cheered as they watched the result on their smartphones. It capped a grueling debate that locked lawmakers in argument from Wednesday morning to 5 a.m. Thursday and, after a pause for sleep, through midnight Friday.

While the decisive outcome was expected given Prime Minister Enda Kenny's lopsided parliamentary majority, passage of the Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill did inflict damage on Kenny's 2-year-old coalition government.

Catholic conservatives vowed to drive his centrist Fine Gael party from power for violating its 2011 campaign pledge not to legislate on abortion. The government drafted the bill in response to last year's case of a miscarrying woman who died in an Irish hospital from blood poisoning nearly a week after being refused a termination.
The death highlighted Ireland's failure for two decades to draft abortion legislation in support of a 1992 Supreme Court judgment ruling that life-saving abortions, including to prevent suicides, should be legal in Ireland.



Kenny, meanwhile, expelled five of his 74 lawmakers from Fine Gael's parliamentary group for voting against the bill and said they couldn't seek re-election as Fine Gael candidates. Strong support for the bill came from left-wing politicians, including Kenny's coalition partners in the Labour Party, who favor much easier access to abortion.

Irish women travel to England for abortions
Many lawmakers in the round-the-clock debate expressed hopes, or fears, that passage of the bill would put Ireland on a slippery slope to granting wider abortion rights, as has already happened in the rest of Europe. The island of Malta is the only other European Union member to outlaw the practice.

Divisions ran deepest on the bill's provisions permitting an abortion for a suicidal woman if a three-doctor panel agrees she would try to kill herself if denied a termination. Anti-abortion activists warned that suicide-faking women and sympathetic doctors would exploit the rule.

But abortion rights lobbyists countered that such cases were rare, and even the most distressed abortion seekers would take the easier option of traveling to England, where abortion has been legal since 1967.

Figures released Thursday showed that nearly 4,000 Irish women traveled there for abortions last year, while many hundreds more have performed their own at home using miscarriage-inducing pills ordered over the internet.

Lawmaker grabs female colleague
The epic debate reflected Kenny's determination to get the bill passed before parliament closes for summer holidays next week. The marathon took its mental toll on lawmakers, one of whom accidentally pressed the wrong button during a 5 a.m. vote to reject opposition amendments.

Another lawmaker, Tom Barry, grabbed a female colleague, Aine Collins, by the hips during a 3 a.m. amendment vote and pulled her on to his lap right in the middle of the debating chamber. Both are Fine Gael lawmakers from County Cork.

Barry said he'd just been kidding around after Collins noted how cold the debating chamber had become. Once the scene became a viral video in Ireland, he issued an apology describing his actions as "disrespectful and inappropriate. ... No excuses, I just shouldn't have done it." He later received an official reprimand from Fine Gael superiors.

Within minutes of debate resuming Thursday afternoon, the speaker was telling both sides to shut up because they were making his sleep-deprived head hurt.

"There's a lot of tired bodies in this chamber, including myself, and my tolerance level is getting less by the second listening to you lot, shouting and roaring across the chamber," Sean Barrett said in remarks to the entire 166-member parliament.

Outside the parliament building, rival abortion protesters maintained a round-the-clock vigil. Police kept them separated, except when one anti-abortion activist flicked Catholic holy water into the ranks of abortion rights protesters, Exorcist-style.

Both sides also shouted occasional insults at each other, though the anti-abortion protesters spent long periods on their knees with rosary beads in hand. At dusk, many lit votive candles. One accidentally set fire to a pro-life poster, but the flames were extinguished with more holy water.

She didn't die in vain, her death will save many lives

[Bastet]

Yes, as ironic as it is, her death will save other women's lives in the future. There's nothing 'pro-life' about her fate though

[banana dick]

this is exactly what "pro-life" people want.

[NEVERBACKZ]

Originally Posted by abacus ↗

20 years ago a similar thing happened where the government actually REFUSED to let a pregnant girl leave the country to get an abortion elsewhere. There was huge uproar back then too, and now today we're in the same position again. The government dont seem to give a shít and are reluctant to do anything as usual other than say "durr we'll investigate it".
If anything positive comes from this Ill eat my fucking hat and post it on DR, but Im highly doubtful anything will. Remember, this is the same country where condoms were ILLEGAL to buy up until the early/mid 90's, and if you did buy them when they became legal the community would view you as a disgrace.

What the fuck are you talking about with your "ILLEGAL" to buy condoms until the 90s??

Shithead with your false information fuck off

[NEVERBACKZ]

[QUOTE=abacus;3291448]As an Irish person, Im ashamed and angry at my country for being such a shitty religious run country. Fuck Catholicism, and fuck our government. I know little or nothing will be done about this here. A huge percentage of our population are still brain dead catholic abused retards who oppose women being allowed make basic choices over their bodies.


What kind of cunt are you?? You`re not Irish ya fuckin retard...

" A huge percentage of our population are still brain dead catholic abused retards who oppose women being allowed make basic choices over their bodies."

If you lived in Ireland you would never make a comment like this it could`nt be further from the truth....what a cunt

[Faline]

Originally Posted by gatagato ↗

***UPDATE

Ireland allows`life saving' abortion bill
Abortion legal if mother's life is at risk

She didn't die in vain, her death will save many lives

Good, about time.

[Raevynn]

It's sad this happened to her. Everyone automatically assumes abortion is a terrible thing, but for the right reasons, it could prevent something happening like this.

Even on this site; people see an abortion video and start screaming how much of a cunt the mother was. She could have easily had the same problem this poor woman had.

It's amazing how fast people will judge another for reasons they're not even aware of. Sometimes it's better to terminate a child, then have both the mother and child die.

[GodsOutlaw]

Catholics are not a religion dedicated to God,in John Foxes' Book Of Martyrs' the Catholic institution. burned at stake millions of Protestant Christians including the man In my Profile photo William Tyndale (1494-1536) his only crime was he translated the New Testement in the English language.and burned at the stake in Belgium in 1536.