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Re: *UPDATE* Harrisburg Mother Said She Didn't Know Son Was Dead Upstairs.
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Re: *UPDATE* Harrisburg Mother Said She Didn't Know Son Was Dead Upstairs.
I'm going to preface this with saying I do NOT agree with how the kid was treated, how he died or what he lived with but as a parent of special needs, I think people should probably understand a few things. What I'm writing isn't a defense of THIS case - just in general because some people don't get how easy it is to miss things. And Dad is fucking horrific for leaving the kid dead... just disgusting. The state of this room is deplorable but it is NOT uncommon for parents like me to fight the ever staining, ever present feces all over the place. When a child likes to smear (though mine isn't autistic, my support groups have children with huge ranges of disability), an autistic child may have a deep obsession with the texture OR the taste of it. My child went through this stage for a short time and let me tell you, there isn't cleaner in this world that get get all the flecks and pieces out of pinhole places in the walls or textured walls. It could take hours to clean up the damage inflicted in 10 minutes by one mess. I'd end up having to sand the whole wall down before repainting because you can't just cover it up either. Shit is worse than asbestos. If the children all had different mental health issues, I'm curious as to whether they were adopted or natural born. Usually, in cases where there are multiple special needs, there is at least some common diagnoses. Maybe she drank or did drugs to combine with genetic issues, I don't know but I'm willing to bet these weren't all their natural kids. If they are, I'd be investigating her prenatal records and having the kids tested and x-rays for signs of physical abuse. When you do get multiple kids with special needs, it's also not uncommon to divide and conquer (though this is extreme, it's also a newspaper reporter who is inferring some things about her so I hesitate to really know if they included or misinterpreted something). When my child was manic and trying to kill theirself, my spouse was stronger to deal with it and no, I didn't see my kid for a few days until their new PRN's were filled by a psychiatric doctor. I dealt with the other kids and the spouse dealt with the one. As for a special needs kid being underweight - again, that wouldn't be all that shocking. Certain anti-psychotics cause weight loss, others cause weight gain, some side effects are dehydration/diuretic, some are water retention. Their diagnoses alone may make it difficult to gain weight (you'd be surprised how many mentally ill kids can metabolize meds in minutes, we actually now have DNA testing to give us a list of what meds they won't metabolize like candy). Risperdal is the first line of defense against most mental illnesses and most people have probably already heard of the lawyer commercials for "gynocomastia" - developing breasts. Sadly, lawyers are ready to prey on parents like me but when it's a choice of your kids getting breast tissue or flinging themselves off a dresser, out a window, etc. then there's a risk/reward here... In any event, there's a lot of things that happen in our lives that outsiders would think is abuse. For example, one parent lost their child because they had bruises on their wrist... what DFCS decided not to listen to from the parents, the school, the caregivers, the doctors and the therapists is that this kid was into serious self-harm and they would have to restrain his wrists (and of course, anything material to restrain kids is generally considered abuse too...) to keep him from scratching his eyes out or choking himself during a "meltdown". |
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Re: *UPDATE* Harrisburg Mother Said She Didn't Know Son Was Dead Upstairs.
BTW, Fragile X is genetic so likely the mother, might explain her passivity or odd behavior to an extent. She is mentally ill herself.
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Re: *UPDATE* Harrisburg Mother Said She Didn't Know Son Was Dead Upstairs.
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Wow! Thank you for sharing your story, RealityUnfolding! I never thought of some of the things you mentioned. As an outsider, it does look and sound like abuse, so I thank you for showing us the other side. I know parents and grandparents of autistic children, but, all I have heard is they have fits of rage, and in one instance, her 14 year old had a birthday party, but, didn't grasp, "the gift thing." completely. It was a last minute decision to invite several people and I was low on funds. She said she would give me a gift to give him because he wouldn't notice. I questioned that. She said he knew the party was for him, but, wouldn't notice whether or not someone had given him anything. She also didn't want to bring him in my house because she didn't know how he would act in a strange place. Thank you again for sharing and allowing me to hear the other side. ![]() I am sorry you had to experience these issues first hand. (((hugs)) <3 |
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I met Nancy once when she was married to Kevin Sullivan and she was a sweetheart and very soft spoken. I guess people could target them as victims. Another point of view I hadn't thought of. ![]() |
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Re: *UPDATE* Harrisburg Mother Said She Didn't Know Son Was Dead Upstairs.
Just wanted to toss in some updates other info here that make this case very chilling. This was CBS full interview with the mother just after it happened. <****** width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/u452IiT8pmg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></******> One of the more... intriguing parts comes around 2:30 about the girl having brain damage, getting it when she was 3. What we can surmise now, was probably at the hands of her parents. In September, after another autopsy, BOTH parents were charged. It gets more disturbing... Quote:
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It gets worse... she actually had TEN children. Quote:
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And his death - might have saved his sister's life. They also pleaded not guilty a few weeks ago. Quote:
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And last update I'll post (sorry for the multiple posting, there was a lot of info and one post would max out). The little boy's step brothers (the ones taken away from her) and their adoptive families attended a memorial service, paid for by an outside group because the mother never claimed the boys ashes. (snipped to remove redundancy) Quote:
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Re: *UPDATE* Harrisburg Mother Said She Didn't Know Son Was Dead Upstairs.
holy crap!!! she's 39!!!!! she looks 60 to me
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