Ukraine Crisis: Russia Demands Guarantees from Nato

[rob666]

Originally Posted by niknik

Nobody has that many nukes just so nobody picks on them.

Russia has 1k more nukes than America. They have reduced their number by half in the last 10 years.

10 years from now America will have a larger nuclear arsenal.

I just read up on the whole tactical nuke issue. It seems that not only does America have it's own, NATO is currently in possession of them in Europe, and is developing a newer generation of them.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by niknik

Nobody has that many nukes just so nobody picks on them.

Well, seeing as America has 7k nukes, why do they have so many?

[ralucagymnast]

If you want to see real statistics regarding Russias strategic capablities go here;http://www.russianforces.org/

[niknik]

So how much does 5000 nuclear bombs cost? Billions right.


And 69 billion in fuel sure it's not that much. But it's at least a third of that. I forgot you don't understand sarcasm.

It's fucking hilarious you think Russia spends 69 billion a year defense. All because that's what the Internet tells you. You're too much.

[niknik]

Originally Posted by rob666

Well, seeing as America has 7k nukes, why do they have so many?

I'm not even sure your numbers are correct. But how many has America built since the end of the cold war?

[niknik]

Originally Posted by ralucagymnast

If you want to see real statistics regarding Russias strategic capablities go here;http://www.russianforces.org/

It doesn't mention tactical nukes. Which is what is being claimed Russia has built thousands of.

[niknik]

Because of missile shields and weapons tracking systems tactical nukes are the new standard.

[niknik]

Originally Posted by rob666

Russia has 1k more nukes than America. They have reduced their number by half in the last 10 years.

10 years from now America will have a larger nuclear arsenal.

I just read up on the whole tactical nuke issue. It seems that not only does America have it's own, NATO is currently in possession of them in Europe, and is developing a newer generation of them.

Rob. Nobody knows exactly what of how many anything Russia has. All thats known for sure is they have them, and they have a fucking lot. It's unbelievable that you or Poo believe you can simply check the Internet to know how many nukes Russia has... Obama doesn't even know for sure.

[Mr Poo]

Originally Posted by niknik

So how much does 5000 nuclear bombs cost? Billions right.


And 69 billion in fuel sure it's not that much. But it's at least a third of that. I forgot you don't understand sarcasm.

It's fucking hilarious you think Russia spends 69 billion a year defense. All because that's what the Internet tells you. You're too much.

You said they cost billions to build and place, and billions to maintain..

First of all each nuclear weapon only costs millions, and they haven't built any for the last 25+ years. Secondly they have less nukes than we do(5000), and refurbishing our 7000 for 30 years only costs $250 billion. That means refurbishing their entire arsenal would be around $175 billion. If spread out over the 30 years to refurb them as they "expire" would cost Russia only 5.83 billion a year. That would constitute only 8.5% of their $69 billion dollar "hypothetical" budget. Not much of a stretch.. The US is only putting 1.9% of it's new lower defense budget annually toward nuclear refurbishment.

[ralucagymnast]

Originally Posted by niknik

It doesn't mention tactical nukes. Which is what is being claimed Russia has built thousands of.

True, but theres loads of interesting stuff on there regarding Russias strategic forces anyway