[Kaboom]

Watching it again hes the first to get physical but they do start to gang beat him and in water one would fear for their life uncontrolled rage takes over after that, why does it have a knife in the first place.

[WTFFTW]

No guns :l augh first time i've had a stabbing in a while in the US

[Ferocity]

I wish cooler heads had prevailed that day, instead of violence. Too bad for everyone involved, that it just wasn't so

[houseoftechno]

Originally Posted by Kaboom ↗

Watching it again hes the first to get physical but they do start to gang beat him and in water one would fear for their life uncontrolled rage takes over after that, why does it have a knife in the first place.

To slice those disrespectful American chix and punx.

He deployed his knife and fingered the open blade while staring at the chix, before he punched the woman and before the punx gave him a little whatfer in response to his assault.

[Dapp]

He should have never said a word and asked for a lawyer

[Xion]

Justified. When he was shoved down, he was also punched in the face. That's a physical assault in a public place. I don't see him assaulting anyone prior to that. I see him running and falling and then getting laughed at by everyone- then surrounded and punched. Combine that with the fact that there's a shit ton of young men taunting, surrounding and harassing him and I'd say he was justified to be scared for his life. ESPECIALLY if they started attacking him over one of their friends saying he was a pedo.
I'm going to finish watching that trial video, but the video evidence would be enough for me as a member of the jury to throw out any first degree murder shit. maybe manslaughter, because he did knife a guy who didn't have a weapon (although he was in the process of getting assaulted again), but murder is out.

[Xion]

Originally Posted by Royal_Madnessty ↗

Only fucking retards will call it self defense. Good god i sometimes start questioning myself when i see comments that are the oppposite of how i see it. Thankfully the jury feels the same as me, this wasn't self defense. You don't gut 5 people over a few slaps and punches. Fuck that.

How long have you been on here? How many deaths have you seen that started as just "a few slaps and punches" that go full on mob beating? A few slaps and punches from one person sure, but if I'm surrounded by a bunch of drunk guys that start hitting me and shoving me into the water, I'm going fear for my life and respond as such.
In the opposite view, I think anyone who thinks a drunk mob that's already become violent towards them ISN'T a threat on their life and WOULDN'T fight back is retarded. Overwhelming force is the only way one person is going to stop a group.
The jury has ruled, so there's apparently much more I haven't seen in this particular case, and I'm wrong in my assessment of it being self defense- but you're just straight out wrong to think a belligerent group will stop attacking once they've started without a very compelling reason... Which is usually severe/lethal injury to the targeted individual, or the individual severely injuring/killing one of them.

[Lux1969]

Originally Posted by kushie18 ↗

HUDSON, Wis. — Investigators say video from July 2022 shows Nicolae Miu being pushed and hit by a group of tubers on the river before he stabbed five people, killing 17-year-old Isaac Schuman. The victims ranged in age from 17 to 24 and were from Wisconsin and Minnesota.

The trial for a 54-year-old Prior Lake man accused of killing a teen and stabbing four others on the Apple River in Wisconsin nearly two years ago began on Monday.

Witnesses said Miu was initially in the river with goggles and a snorkel. A group of tubers accused of him of looking at young girls underwater, but Miu told investigators he was looking for a friend's missing cellphone.

The prosecution argues that Miu was the aggressor by stabbing five people. A knife, believed to belong to Miu, was later recovered by officers on the river bank.

Miu's defense attorneys, though, see it much differently, saying the teens taunted him, then surrounded him, and Miu was fighting for his life.

He is charged with first-degree intentional homicide in Schuman's death, and attempted first-degree intentional homicide in the stabbings of Ryhley Mattison, A.J. ******, Dante Carlson and Tony Carlson. He pleaded not guilty to all charges in September 2022.

If convicted, Miu could be sentenced to life in prison.



This is currently on Trial day 5. Read the full article and keep up with LIVE status HERE.

April 9, Trial day 9. Prosecution questions Nicolae Miu FULL

Victims Rhyley Mattinson and A.J. Martin disemboweled.

[marcos_69]

"Witnesses said Miu was initially in the river with goggles and a snorkel. A group of tubers accused of him of looking at young girls underwater, but Miu told investigators he was looking for a friend's missing cellphone."

That's quite a stretch to say he was looking at girls underwater in that chocolate-milk, brown muddy water.

[Noose]

Little brats deserved what they got.