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Originally Posted by Pink. ↗

Pentagon: ISIS finance minister killed



Im sure ISIS has more disposable stock already lined up to take his position.

he Pentagon said Friday that it had killed ISIS' finance minister, Abd al-Rahman Mustafa al-Qaduli, whom many analysts consider the group's No. 2 leader.

Those analysts believe al-Qaduli would have been expected to take control of the day-to-day running of ISIS, also called ISIL, if its leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, was killed or incapacitated.
Defense Secretary Ash Carter announced the death at a news conference Friday morning.


"We are systematically eliminating ISIL's cabinet," Carter said, adding it was "the second senior ISIL leader we've successfully targeted this month."


Explaining the significance of this particular figure, Carter noted, "We've taken out the leader who oversees the funding for ISIL's operations, hurting their ability to pay fighters and hire recruits."


Asked whether the U.S. was turning the corner on the fight against ISIS, Carter responded, "We're certainly gathering momentum and we're seeing that that momentum is having an effect."


Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Joseph Dunford, appearing alongside Carter, agreed that the U.S.-led coalition was gaining momentum, but he cautioned: "By no means would I say that we're about to break the back of ISIL or that the fight is over."


Carter also connected Friday's announcement to the terror attacks in Europe that ISIS has undertaken, including a mass killing in Brussels on Tuesday.


"Like Paris, Brussels is a strong reminder of why we need to hasten the defeat of ISIL wherever it exists in the world," Carter said, stressing the United States' commitment to Europe.


"Our enemies are one and the same," he declared."And together we continue to do more and more to bring the full weight of our vast military capabilities to bear in accelerating the defeat of ISIL."
This is not the first time al-Qaduli has been reported killed. In July, the Iraqi Defense Ministry claimed a coalition air strike had killed him in Tal Afar in northern Iraq.


At the time U.S. Central Command, which oversees military operations in the region, debunked the claim, saying it had "no information to corroborate" that ISIS' second-in-command had been killed.


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The U.S. Treasury labeled al-Qaduli "a specially designated global terrorist" in 2014. According to the Treasury, he also goes by 12 aliases, including Hajji Iman, a name Carter used when speaking to reporters Friday.


The U.S. State Department had offered a $7 million reward for information on al-Qaduli -- the highest for any ISIS leader apart from al-Baghdadi, who is valued at $10 million.
That sizable bounty makes al-Qaduli the sixth-most-wanted terrorist in the world, ranking only behind the likes of the heads of al Qaeda, ISIS and the Taliban's Haqqani network.
READ: Obama, world leaders to meet next week on ISIS
Al-Qaduli was born in Mosul, Iraq's second-largest city, in either 1957 or 1959.


He initially joined Al-Qaeda in Iraq -- the group that would evolve into ISIS -- in 2004, serving as a top deputy to then-leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and emir of the group's Mosul branch.

Good news. Not sure how much of a difference it it'll make, but never a problem having one less terrorist.

[Pink.]

Originally Posted by a175 ↗

Good news. Not sure how much of a difference it it'll make, but never a problem having one less terrorist.

I seriously dont believe the killing of an ISIS figurehead makes much of a logistical or a physical difference, but it could possibly alter their general morale. Not so sure their morale states work like most humans'.

call me misguided or whatever, but I just can't bother considering them to be human.

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Originally Posted by Pink. ↗

WTF is it with ASSHOLES and their WALLS???
Bulgaria ‘ready to build fence on Greece border’ – PM
Bulgaria is ready to build a fence on its border with Greece to keep out migrants, Prime Minister Boiko Borisov said on Friday. The border is “unprotected, and our concern is that the Greek government did not take measures in recent months. We are ready to erect a barrier if necessary,” Borisov told parliament on Friday.

Maybe you have a lack of Eu. history. In these terms I talk about the 1450-2000 era from British Islands till border with Russia.
About 550-400 years ago large parts of "today" Poland, Hungary, Czechia, Slovakia, Romania, and Bulgaria were occupied by Ottomans /Turks / Muslims. Most Western Europeans don't know this... but that's the direct reason why these countries don't wanna accept more Muslim refugees.

Islam represses all other beliefs or religions. Also rituals, signs, ... Past , now and in the future.

A hint: U know about Smirna?
That was for centuries a Greek city on Turkish soils. In fact since eternity.
Go look it up with google. U can find YT vids about it as well. And you might understand why Greek are very hostile of Muslims. For Good Reason.

Not convincied? Almost all trees of Crete were cut down and went to Turkey during their occupation. And I'm not even Greek nor related to them by family. But I know. And most of you DON'T KNOW.

[a175]

Originally Posted by Pink. ↗

I seriously dont believe the killing of an ISIS figurehead makes much of a logistical or a physical difference, but it could possibly alter their general morale. Not so sure their morale states work like most humans'.

call me misguided or whatever, but I just can't bother considering them to be human.

You're correct. Some are salvageable, but generally speaking they've lost their humanity.
Anyone who's willing to harm innocent people, especially if it involves killing themselves in the process, for any reason whatsoever has lost their humanity.

I don't think it drops morale, but our gain is from their loss of leadership and expertise. That always makes a dent.

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Originally Posted by b0g ↗

Maybe you have a lack of Eu. history. In these terms I talk about the 1450-2000 era from British Islands till border with Russia.
About 550-400 years ago large parts of "today" Poland, Hungary, Czechia, Slovakia, Romania, and Bulgaria were occupied by Ottomans /Turks / Muslims. Most Western Europeans don't know this... but that's the direct reason why these countries don't wanna accept more Muslim refugees.

Islam represses all other beliefs or religions. Also rituals, signs, ... Past , now and in the future.

A hint: U know about Smirna?
That was for centuries a Greek city on Turkish soils. In fact since eternity.
Go look it up with google. U can find YT vids about it as well. And you might understand why Greek are very hostile of Muslims. For Good Reason.

Not convincied? Almost all trees of Crete were cut down and went to Turkey during their occupation. And I'm not even Greek nor related to them by family. But I know. And most of you DON'T KNOW.

First of all, I am NOT DOUBTING YOU OR YOUR REASONS. and You are correct...I do have a lack of the history of that region....of how and WHY the borders of these countries evolved during that time. I am, however with the siege of Vienna in the 1529 attack by Suleman that was the first attempts to take that city...Also know a bit about the great Turkish war. ...late 1680s...not sure of exact dates... I DO not need convincing, though, I would like more historical information....Thank You.

I am aware of the effects the Ottoman Empire had upon the Non muslim populations....and its effects for many years forward. I am also aware of the effects of Islam on non muslims when they are dominated by the religion....or even by their own religions...

If NOT for terrorism Islam would NOT be considered to be the danger that it is considered today.

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Originally Posted by a175 ↗

You're correct. Some are salvageable, but generally speaking they've lost their humanity.
Anyone who's willing to harm innocent people, especially if it involves killing themselves in the process, for any reason whatsoever has lost their humanity.

I don't think it drops morale, but our gain is from their loss of leadership and expertise. That always makes a dent.

That it does not drop morale, the way I see it anyway, is because since they would consider death in such a way, a conduit to martyrdom....it would be the opposite among their brethren...Im also not so sure that any person of any religion even truly considers themselves to be human since life is supposed to be a gift yet they are so fast and loose with it.

Hard to humanize that.

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Originally Posted by Pink. ↗

That it does not drop morale, the way I see it anyway, is because since they would consider death in such a way, a conduit to martyrdom....it would be the opposite among their brethren...Im also not so sure that any person of any religion even truly considers themselves to be human since life is supposed to be a gift yet they are so fast and loose with it.

Hard to humanize that.

Correct again. They see themselves as martyrs. Fortunately some are smart enough to actually read the Qur'an and see that their action are sending them directly to eternal torment (theologically speaking, anyway).

Correct again on the religious idea of life being a gift and not truly "ours". Which makes it even more ironic that they'd conduct their lives in that manner if it they really believe in it. Drugs, porn, and blowing themselves up doesn't exactly mesh with piety.

One of my feelings, and it's not original so don't give me any credit for it, is that we shouldn't have to fear Hell in order to make us be good people. Yes, we believe in an afterlife with punishments/rewards... but I can also see why non-theists see why it shouldn't take that threat to bring us to decency.

I suppose everybody is different and requires a different form of motivation, though.

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Pink I was not pointing to you. Only providing general info for the masses.

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