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A Spate Of Drugged Driving Deaths Alarm U.S. Regulators

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A SPATE OF DRUGGED DRIVING DEATHS ALARMS U. S. REGULATORS
$Wider legalization of pot considered a main factor$


Chicago Sun-Times27 Oct [email protected] NathanBomey USA TODAY Nathan Bomey

In 2015, 21% of the 31,166 fatal crashes in the U. S. involved at least one driver who tested positive for drugs after the incident.
The percentage of traffic deaths in which at least one driver tested positive for drugs has nearly doubled over a decade, raising alarms as five states are set to vote on legalization of marijuana.
Amid a disquieting increase in overall U. S. traffic fatalities, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has tracked an upswing in the percentage of drivers testing positive for illegal drugs and prescription medications, according to federal data released to USA TODAY and interviews with leaders in the field.
The increase corresponds with a movement to legalize marijuana, troubling experts who readily acknowledge that the effects of pot use on drivers remain poorly understood. Recreational marijuana use is now legal in Colorado, Washington state, Oregon, Alaska and the District of Columbia, even as it remains outlawed on a federal level. Five states — Arizona, California, Maine, Massachusetts and Nevada — are set to vote on legalization.
It’s “very probable” that Colorado’s move to legalize recreational marijuana has caused an increase in fatal crashes, said Glenn Davis, the state’s highway safety manager.
In 2015, 21% of the 31,166 fatal crashes in the U. S. involved at least one driver who tested positive for drugs after the incident — up from 12% in 2005, according to NHTSA. The rate rose in 14 of the past 15 years, falling for the first time last year. It was down less than 1 percentage point compared with 2014.
“Drugs is emerging as a higher number,” said Mark Rosekind, administrator of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
A separate federal study of 11,000 weekend, nighttime drivers found 15.1% tested positive for illegal drugs in 2013 and 2014, up from 12.4% in 2007. Mari- juana represented the largest increase, as 12.6% tested positive in 2013 and 2014, up from 8.6% in 2007.
Researchers caution that the connection between drugs and deadly crashes is not as significant as the effect of drunken driving, which is responsible for more than 30% of road fatalities. Experts also note that available data is not comprehensive — and some drugs, including certain over- thecounter medications, have no effect on the driver. Many drivers who get high and then get behind the wheel are subject to arrest for driving under the influence just as those who drink and drive.
One victim, according to prosecutors, was David Aggio of California. He was killed March 8, 2014, when Rodolfo Alberto Contreras, who was high on marijuana, ran a red light at nearly 80 mph, crossed the center divider and demolished Aggio’s Ford Explorer, prosecutors said.
Contreras in June became the first drugged driver in California to be convicted of second- degree murder. According to California prosecutors, his response at the scene of the crime, when confronted about the incident, was: “I want my weed.” He was sentenced to 20 years to life in prison.
Auto- safety experts are particularly concerned about a spike in drugged driving in states that have legalized recreational marijuana, such as Colorado, where voters approved it in 2014. The nation’s opioid epidemic could also be a contributing factor.
In 2015, 12.4% of fatal crashes in Colorado involved a driver who tested positive for cannabis alone, up from 8.1% in 2013, the Colorado Department of Transportation reports. The number of drivers involved in fatal crashes who tested positive for any drug hit a record 18.6% in Colorado in 2015, up from a low of 12.3% in 2012.
Marijuana proponents dispute the suggestion that pot use is killing more people on the road.
Jolene Forman, staff attorney at the Drug Policy Alliance, which supports marijuana legalization, cautioned against drawing conclusions on the effect of marijuana legalization on drivers.
“We’re interested in pursuing policies that advance what is empirically shown, rather than knee- jerk, fear- based policies,” Forman said. “It’s too soon to say that it’s had a positive or negative effect but preliminary data look very promising. It looks like marijuana legalization has not led to road safety concerns.”
Complicating matters is that research on the effects of drugged driving is scarce, leaving road- safety experts with little understanding of the full ramifications.
For starters, many drivers involved in fatal crashes aren’t tested for drugs. What’s more, just because drivers have drugs in their system doesn’t mean they are impaired. Marijuana is noticeable in the bloodstream for weeks, but its strongest effects dissipate after a few hours.
In addition, there’s no generally accepted field sobriety test for officers to conduct, and there’s no standard level of impairment for marijuana. In contrast, all states punish drivers for blood- alcohol concentration at or above 0.08%, according to the Governors Highway Safety Association.
But a study released in June by the University of Iowa’s National Advanced Driving Simulator ( NADS) concluded that drivers with blood concentration of 13.1 ug/ L ( grams per 1,000 liters) of the main active ingredient in marijuana, THC, “showed increased weaving that was similar to those” with 0.08 blood- alcohol level.
“As we see more people drive on the road with different controlled substances, whether they be illicit or prescription drugs, the risk is increasing,” said Tim Brown, associate research scientist at NADS and co- author of the study, in an interview.
Anyone who’s driving dangerously because they’re high can be flagged by officers who are looking for drunken drivers, said J. T. Griffin, chief government affairs officer for Mothers Against Drunk Driving. MADD last year updated its mission statement to target drugged driving.

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The "Reefer Madness" crowd will never stop being butthurt that some Americans exercised their right to tell them to fuck off.

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I don't think they care that people are getting high , I think everybody would appreciate if they wouldn't get behind the wheel while intoxicated ..
But that won't happen because most that are high are diluted and self absorbed .. not all but numbers are numbers ..

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And having studied discrete mathematics, I know I can make numbers say whatever I want, given a large-enough sample.

Trust me, I live in Missouri, "The Land Of The Drunken Redneck". Only the drunkest get caught on the paved roads. The rest either barely make it home on the section roads or get caught, either by pull-over or crash.

I've also worked in LE dispatch. The Venn Diagram between marijuana smokers and ethanol imbibers would have a huge overlap between the two. This country is already smoking weed all across the land. It's a dead-albatross to try and make it out to be something new like this "study" is doing.

I didn't see a single notation of what the "federal study" was. Citing new outlets might be fun, but it's not science. Hell, I could tell you that stoner on the dorm-hall was less-effective at government than that asshole who wore a suit-and-tie to classes. But that's not science, that's bad journalism.

Sorry if I seem riled up, but our dispatch office overlooked the booking pit. I saw a lot of crying kids booked and released for having a joint in the car... when the driver wasn't impaired but had a dumbass friend who was holding. A crime, for certain, but then again, wasn't blasting the radio with the windows open -or- squealing the tires a crime in a not-too-long-ago history?

Weed rarely kills, and when it does, it's usually its outlaw-status that causes either cops or crooks to kill.

Have at thee, with due respect.

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So ,I guess it's a conspiracy to stop pot legalization.. ?
10s of thousands were waiting for it to be legal before they acquired and smoked .. of course the numbers were going to make an uptick . It's just a news story with verifiable numbers .. like it or not ..

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And having studied discrete mathematics, I know I can make numbers say whatever I want, given a large-enough sample.

Trust me, I live in Missouri, "The Land Of The Drunken Redneck". Only the drunkest get caught on the paved roads. The rest either barely make it home on the section roads or get caught, either by pull-over or crash.

I've also worked in LE dispatch. The Venn Diagram between marijuana smokers and ethanol imbibers would have a huge overlap between the two. This country is already smoking weed all across the land. It's a dead-albatross to try and make it out to be something new like this "study" is doing.

I didn't see a single notation of what the "federal study" was. Citing new outlets might be fun, but it's not science. Hell, I could tell you that stoner on the dorm-hall was less-effective at government than that asshole who wore a suit-and-tie to classes. But that's not science, that's bad journalism.

Sorry if I seem riled up, but our dispatch office overlooked the booking pit. I saw a lot of crying kids booked and released for having a joint in the car... when the driver wasn't impaired but had a dumbass friend who was holding. A crime, for certain, but then again, wasn't blasting the radio with the windows open -or- squealing the tires a crime in a not-too-long-ago history?

Weed rarely kills, and when it does, it's usually it's outlaw-status that causes either cops or crooks to kill.

Have at thee, with due respect.
I was one of those kids long long time ago .. no worries ,,

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I was one of those kids long time ago .. so no worries ,, I understand ..
I don't hate you. But your abuse of punctuation is troubling.

Once again, your unfortunate status as an arrest subject is lamentable, but as those who are familiar with discrete mathematics, individual incidences never apply to [group] statistics. If it helps, think about it like shark bites. I still swim in the ocean with confidence... as long as it is in the temperate seas. Swim in [a known area for shark attacks], you might get bit. So, should we kill all sharks because there is therapeutic benefit by swimming in the ocean, but there is an outlier of potential harm when you swim in shark-waters?

There are scads of people smoking weed who will never fall into your faulty Venn diagram. That is all.

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And it is awesome you said that. *respect*

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And it is awesome you said that. *respect*
I always get pothead hate mail when I post something like this , Although my intent was to inform not debate ..
I realize a genius mathematical mind such as your self will see things others won't see but the numbers are basic and matter of fact .. a fatal car crash happens .. they draw blood and test for chemicals ..positives are increasing ,period .. I didn't make the numbers up they are police and DOT numbers ..

I do value your input , though .

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