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Old 11-05-2015, 05:23 AM
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ISIS bomb on board the Russian plane according to U.S. Intel. I'm shocked. But bodies don't show trauma from a bomb? No residue of a bomb? I'm still shocked.
Lack of trauma could be explained by an explosion that may not have been initially catastrophic but caused eventual hull failure. Although if that is the case, why no distress call?

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Old 11-05-2015, 07:10 AM
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Re: Russian Passenger Aircraft Crash in Egypt

To the best of my recollection, ALL aircraft bombings ever done have left plenty of blast/shrapnel damage evident to even lay people upon casual inspection.

The way this is being treated smells of propaganda, governmental agendas, cover ups, etc.

And not just by Russia and Egypt, but by many countries.

NATO and the US seem to want to 'make hay' out of this to try and obscure their envy at Putin's direct, efficient and effective dealing with the moo slum terrorists in Syria.

Russia bombs and kills moo slum terrorists.

Europe and the US imports moo slum terrorists to live among them so as to be better positioned to destroy Europe and the US.

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Re: Russian Passenger Aircraft Crash in Egypt

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Re: Russian Passenger Aircraft Crash in Egypt

I read today the British Prime minister is suspending flights over Egypt. However there are a bunch of British citizens at the Sharm el-Sheik resort.

I looking that resort name up I see Putin is pissed at the British PM for not sharing the intelligence leading them to suspend flights. Those Russians-so touchy.

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American intelligence services are becoming a joke. This false flag operation is soooo obvious, it's ridiculous.
Yeah, right, ISIS bombed a Russian plane, coincidentally after you cried the blues about Putin not doing enough against ISIS (while killing off the American backed Freedom terrorists of Syria)

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Old 11-06-2015, 12:45 AM
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British holidaymakers told they could "skip Sharm el-Sheikh security queues for £20"

This is an alarming report on the state of security at Sharm el-Sheikh from the Press Association:

British holidaymakers have told how they have been offered the chance to pay up to £20 to skip queues and bag checks at Sharm el-Sheikh airport.

The Government suspended air links on Wednesday amid fears a bomb was used to down a Russian passenger plane in Egypt, killing 224 people.

Dale Parkyn, who visited the Red Sea resort with his wife earlier this year, told Sky News they were approached by a man in military uniform and asked if they would like to avoid the long queues.

The 47 year old, from Harrogate, said: "What we did is we discussed it and he then produced a £20 note and said, 'Have you one of these' and you can avoid the queue.

"We walked right through the security gates and security procedure, straight through the airport, avoided all the queues, and then he put the case on the conveyor belt and the girl checked us in. At no point did my luggage go through any scanner. When I think now, it was bizarre.

"At the time it was quite amusing that for us, for £20, we'd avoided all the queues."

£20 = $30


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Sharm el-Sheikh flights shutdown triggered when British spies uncovered Isil bomb plot after Russian air crash
Exclusive: Tourists returning from Egypt told to leave luggage behind as airport security is tightened in wake of disaster in Sinai.

The Egyptian security shutdown was sparked after British spies intercepted messages which showed Isil extremists had plotted a major terror attack in the region, the Telegraph can disclose.

The communications and “chatter” - uncovered by British intelligence only after the Russian passenger jet tragedy - are what led David Cameron to say it was “more likely than not” that a bomb brought the plane down on Saturday killing 224 people.

The intelligence resulted in Britain suspending all flights to and from Sharm el-Sheikh, leaving 20,000 British tourists stranded at the holiday resort.

Flights will resume on Friday with 20 aircraft carrying about 4,000 people back to Britain. But passengers were warned they would not be allowed to take luggage in the hold.

The move suggests officials fear a bomb was smuggled into the hold of flight 7K9268 in the checked luggage. It came as it emerged Britain raised concerns around baggage handling at Sharm el-Sheikh airport ten months ago.

If British intelligence proves correct, it would be the first airline bombing by Isil extremists.

Downing Street also suggested that Britain could impose further travel restrictions on flights to and from other destinations in regions with Isil links amid concerns over airport security in the wake of the developments.

Number 10's belief that the plane was brought down by a bomb was on Thursday strengthened by the the White House which released a statement saying “some information that has been learned” also pointed to a terror attack.

On Wednedsay David Cameron suspended all British flights to and from Sharm el-Sheikh. Now the Telegraph understands that the crucial intelligence came after MI5, GCHQ and their US counterparts went back over communications of known fanatics in the region.

Their trawl revealed "chatter" in the days before the crash pointing to an imminent attack.

It is feared Isil affiliates in the Sinai region were behind the atrocity.

Mr Cameron said: "The reason we acted… is because of intelligence and information we had that gave us the concern that it was more likely than not that it was a terrorist bomb."

During a visit to the UK by Egyptian president Abdel Fatah al-Sisi, Mr Cameron’s official spokesman revealed British security experts were sent to Sharm el-Sheikh airport to improve security 10 months ago. Mr Sisi said the UK Government was satisfied by the changes made by the Egyptians in the wake of the visit.

These are thought to include more background checks on airside baggage handlers and more security scanners to check bags and suitcases.

Britain’s decision to suspend flights on Wednesday sparked a diplomatic row with Egypt and Russia who attacked the UK for not sharing intelligence and taking a “premature and unwarranted” decision.

Philip Hammond, the Foreign Secretary, said that the intelligence that prompted the UK action was not being shared widely with other countries.

"Some intelligence we can share, some we cannot," he said.

“We have reached a conclusion. What we are sharing with our partners is our conclusion.

"I expect during the course of today you will see more and more of those partners looking at those conclusions, listening to our explanations ... and deciding that they too want to take a precautionary approach."

France later suspended all flights to Sharm el-Sheikh and some German operators followed suit.

Maria Zakharova, the Russian foreign ministry’s chief spokeswoman, said: “It is genuinely shocking to think that the British government has some kind of information that could cast light on what happened in the skies above Egypt.”

There was also tension between Mr Cameron and Russian President Vladimir Putin when the pair spoke for ten minutes on the phone on Thursday, with the Russian premier suggesting Mr Cameron had been hasty in grounding British flights.

The PM’s official spokesman said: “The President underlined that he thought countries should wait for the investigation to be completed.

“The Prime Minister was very clear that he will be driven by what is right for the safety of British citizens. We were right to take the action we did based on the information that we have in front of us and our assessment of the situation.”

Egypt's Foreign Ministry spokesman Ahmed Abouzeid said Britain's decision to suspend flights was taken unilaterally without consulting Cairo. The Foreign Ministry described the move as “premature and unwarranted” that would damage its tourist industry.

Mr Hammond said: “Of course this will have a huge negative impact for Egypt. But with respect to him, he hasn't seen all the information that we have."

Speaking after his meeting with Mr Cameron, Mr Sisi said he believed there was a "good mutual understanding" and that Cairo was "completely ready to co-operate with all of our friends" on ensuring the safety of foreign tourists.

He said he hoped normality would be restored "in the soonest time possible".

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Source -BBC.com

Russian plane crash: UK suspects bomb was placed in hold

"UK investigators looking at what caused a Russian airliner to crash in Egypt believe a bomb was put in the hold prior to take-off, the BBC has learned.

The UK government suspended all flights to and from the Egyptian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh two days ago.

The move came after it said the incident was likely to be have been caused by terrorism.

It had received intelligence based on intercepted communications between militants in the Sinai Peninsula.

However, both Egypt and Russia have said it is too early to draw conclusions.

The Metrojet Airbus A321 was flying from Sharm el-Sheikh to St Petersburg when it came down in Sinai on Saturday, killing all 224 people on board. Most of the victims were Russian.

Britons stranded in Sharm el-Sheikh since then are due to begin returning home, but will only be allowed to bring hand luggage.

BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner says that although British officials have not ruled out the possibility of a technical fault bringing the plane down, they think that is increasingly unlikely.

New intelligence was received on Wednesday and the UK government's Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre has spent the past few days assessing what caused the plane to come down.

Security service investigators suspect someone with access to the aircraft's baggage compartment inserted an explosive device inside or on top of the luggage just before the plane took off, our correspondent adds.
Sinai-based militants linked to the Islamic State (IS) group said they destroyed the plane, but did not say how. IS has called for a war against both Russia and the US over their air strikes in Syria.

US President Barack Obama told a CBS radio station on Thursday that he thought there was "a possibility" that there was a bomb on the downed jet.

"We're taking that very seriously," he said.

Since Wednesday, several countries have joined Britain in restricting travel to Sharm-el-Sheikh.

France and Belgium are advising their citizens against all but essential travel to the resort, and the Netherlands is warning against travelling via the resort's airport.
German airline Lufthansa says its subsidiaries Edelweiss and Eurowings are halting flights to Sharm el-Sheikh (from Zurich and Duesseldorf respectively) as a "precautionary" measure, and return flights for customers already there will be arranged.

Russian planes are still flying to and from the resort.

"Theories about what happened and the causes of the incident can only be pronounced by the [official] investigation," Dmitry Peskov, spokesman for President Vladimir Putin, said.

Egypt, which is highly dependent on tourism, said Britain's decision to suspend flights was unjustified.

Egypt's President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi, who has been on a visit to the UK, told reporters that security at the airport was tightened 10 months ago at the UK's request.

However, he said he understood Britain's concern.

Egypt is leading the investigation into the air disaster, with the help of Russian and other foreign experts."

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"The communications and “chatter” - uncovered by British intelligence only after the Russian passenger jet tragedy - ..."
Sure.. am i the only one who suspects the Britisch intelligence probably knew before the crash that isil was in a far stadium of planning such an attack against russian civilian aircraft?
They (Britisch intel) might have been hold back since it was a nice retaliation for downing the MH17 ?

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Speaking of bodies..... anyone have photos of the bodies in the crash? Any leaked?

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