Rape Victims Should Have 'moral Responsibility'

[rapeWhistle]

Originally Posted by Broadjumper

I couldn't agree more. The son of a family friend was in a similar situation and no sex had even taken place. When he was 22, he met a girl at a party and they got on famously. He offered to give her a lift home and she accepted. They ended up parking in some dark area, getting into the back seat and partially undressed and before they could actually get busy, a cop rolled up and shined a light on 'em. A neighbor had seen them park and called assuming someone was trying steal or vandalize a car. Anyway, it turns out the girl was just 15, but told him she was 18. The cops call her folks and to save her own ass, she says she'd been seeing [and presumably fucking] him for months behind their backs and he was the reason she lied about where she was at night instead of being at her girlfriends, blah, blah, blah...this ends up nearly going to trial before the the DA dropped the case because of inconsistencies in her stories and failing to be able answer any questions about him like where he lived, schools, typical shit you know about someone when you're getting to know them and no corroborating witness to the relationship...If he had gone to court and convicted, he'd have had to serve up to 8 years and register as sex offender for the rest of his life...

And regarding rape allegations, if the victim's name gets sealed, then the accused's should too. Once your reputation is damaged you may never get it back...

I agree completely with this.

There should be parity in the right to privacy of both parties in a case.

[Megamel29]

She's comparing falling off of a bar stool to rape? Yikes. Not even close. "I got so drunk last night that I fell off my bar stool and threw up in the parking lot." "I got so drunk last night that I got raped." Not quite the same thing. Saying that a woman is asking for rape is like saying she should be raped. There's a drunk woman walking alone. Whose turn is it to do the raping?

[icheerthebull]

Originally Posted by rapeWhistle

That's not even close to the same as a crack in a sidewalk.

Piano wire has no business being there and would only be put their to maim or kill. A crack in a sidewalk is as common as... well, a fucking crack in a sidewalk.
It happens from changes in the underlying soil or damage.

I agree its common but the reason people can sue is because it shouldnt be. Its up to the local council/government to maintain the roads and pavements. If the sate of a road has eroded to the extent where it could cause injury then its the resposiblilty of the council. Im not saying you shouldnt pay attention, you should make every effort to keep yourself safe but the biggest factor in this example would be lack of maintenance and not the awareness of the injured party

Originally Posted by Blewvane

That would be a moot point. The cyclist would be dead and you'd be charged with murder.

not really the point was the same. Had the cyclist been looking more attentively he/she wouldnt have been beheaded right?

[rapeWhistle]

Originally Posted by icheerthebull

So lets say I put piano wire across two trees in a park and a cyclist gets beheaded, is it the cyclist fault for not seeing it?

I still think it's a bad analogy.

Originally Posted by icheerthebull

I agree its common but the reason people can sue is because it shouldnt be. Its up to the local council/government to maintain the roads and pavements. If the sate of a road has eroded to the extent where it could cause injury then its the resposiblilty of the council. Im not saying you shouldnt pay attention, you should make every effort to keep yourself safe but the biggest factor in this example would be lack of maintenance and not the awareness of the injured party

Rape is an aggressive act - not a passive act; or act of blatant disregard for personal safety on the part of the victim, in most cases.

[icheerthebull]

I was just pointing out that someone falling on a crack in a pavement is not a suitable analogy

[Broadjumper]

Originally Posted by rapeWhistle

I still think it's a bad analogy.


Rape is an aggressive act - not a passive act; or act of blatant disregard for personal safety on the part of the victim, in most cases.

"Bad" is an understatement. Utterly stupid would be better.

[Broadjumper]

Originally Posted by Broadjumper

"Bad" is an understatement. Utterly stupid would be better.

Icheer, l was referring to the falling off the barstool analogy.

[icheerthebull]

OK I think my point has been missed. I was making reference to the crack on the street point and that point alone. I am making no other
declerations or comments with regard to this case or any similar.

[rapeWhistle]

Let's just all agree not to rape anyone.

[icheerthebull]