[rapeWhistle]

Laquan

[rob666]

Originally Posted by gatagato ↗

Chicago Burger King manager claims police wiped an hour of surveillance footage from the chain's servers after last year's shooting of Laquan McDonald by a white cop

• Jay Darshane, the manager described how several detectives burst into the Burger King and demanded the password to access surveillance footage
• It was footage that may have captured Laquan McDonald's final moments before being shot by white Chicago cop Jason Van ****
• Darshane said that police officers and a member of the department's technical support team handled the footage
• Three hours later, 86 minutes of footage recorded from 9:13 to 10:39 p.m. had been wiped from their computer
• However his claims have been dismissed by Chicago police Superintendent Garry McCarthy and state attorney Anita Alvarez
• Hundreds of protesters took to the streets of Chicago on Black Friday to draw attention to the killing
• Three were arrested during protests - two for blocking traffic and another for battery

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I'd like to focus on what the Superintendent and the state attorney stated....
Whenever something serious happens in my area, Carabinieri often summon me to extract surveillance cameras videos: they have their own specialists, but they are stationed in the capital of the island: according to italian laws you MUST wipe the recordings after 48 hours (unless you own a bank, a jewelry or a potential terrorist target) so their specialists, who usually are super-busy, almost always can't be here in time. The procedure is always the same: beforehand i sign an agreement in which I undertake to not disclose any information coming out from the video, then i can proceed.

1-If the DVR is not equipped with a backup system, stop recording and take note of the time, make a copy of the HDD, then start recording again and take note of the time again
2-Using the DVR interface, extract the videos (coming ONLY from the cameras that may have caught something of interest, from a certain time to a certain time) to another external drive at the best resolution available: many DVR are set by default to generate a folder containing the videos in some proprietary format and a projector, but there's almost always, if not always, a way to use a lossless video codec.

All this must be done at the presence of at least two police officers and of the owner of the cameras.

3-After the extraction, the officers will certify the videos extracted as true copies of the originals.
ONE thing that i can tell for sure is that, regardless the DVR model, it's impossible to accidentally delete any data during the process, and if you want to do it intentionally, then you'll be prompted at least three times before deleting anything. You need to be both blind and a computer illiterate to NOT notice them, and by doing so you are destroying potential forensic evidences (which is a crime, at least here, btw).
If you need to operate on a server via FTP, anything would be even more complicated, and almost always there's a daily backup copy of everything in a separate folder.
The police Superintendent's explanation doesn't hold water: "result of technical difficulties" my ass, WHAT technical difficulties could destroy only some contents and leave unaltered other contents? The only "technical difficulties" that may occur would be a sudden change in voltage, but this would affect only the logic board, and anyway you still would be able to recover the data, which are physically located in the platter(s): also, I'm pretty sure that in this very case, anyone skilled enough (but better if it's a company specialized in DVR data recovery) is still able to recover the "lost" data UNLESS it has been used some wiping/eraser software that deleted the data by overwriting them, one or more times. Basically, what the superintendent claimed, is IMPOSSIBLE, these things happen only VERY intentionally.
I'm not claiming that they're hiding something, just pointing out that if only some data are missing, then they've been deleted intentionally unless they've sent Stevie Wonder to do the job, I don't want to sound like the "I know it all guy", but after having been summoned by the police 400+ times for this, I guess I know what I'm talking about.

P.S.: The statement from the state attorney is ridiculous: "We have looked at those videos and ... it doesn't appear that it's been tampered with"

The problem is NOT the video that "you you have looked at": the problem is the videos that you could NOT watch, you stupid woman.

Good post.

[Markhamed]

Originally Posted by rob666 ↗

Yeah, Zimmerman is such an upstanding citizen...... It's not like he's been arrested a half dozen times for violent offences since his acquittal.

If a man is on trial for committing his 18th burglary, the fact that he committed 17 others doesn't play into his trial. That doesn't matter. The question is, did he commit *this* burglary. Same with Georgie. He may not have been justified in all of his actions prior to or following the incident with Trayvon Martin, but a jury found him justified in *that* incident.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you - Zimmerman will kill again. It may or may not be legitimate. I honestly think Zimmerman needs to pipe the fuck down and take up a new hobby. But Zimmerman shot Martin in self-defense, so continuously hearing Trayvon's name is also BS.

The main problem with this debate is that there are people on BOTH sides who refuse to face facts. Here's a quick list of totally BS statements that we'll hear frequently, some of them even in this thread.
"All cops are racist" (they're not)
"No cops are racist" (there are some)
"All cops are heroes" (some are bad)
"All cops are crooked" (most are not)
"Arianna Grande is a good singer" (she's awful)

BOTH sides try to take individual cases and apply them to the overall group. Eric Garner, Freddy Gray, Tamir Rice, Walter Scott, Sandra Bland, Michael Brown, Laquan McDonald -- Are these cases all equal? Of course not, they all have various elements in them. Are these incidents representative of the overall debate? Of course not!!

The shooting of Michael Brown was totally righteous - Does that mean ALL officer involved shootings of black males are righteous? Of course not! The shooting of Walter Scott was cold-blooded murder - Does that mean ALL officer involved shootings are unjustified? Of course not!

And yet both sides of this debate want to pretend like in every single case they're right.

So cops and people like oswald come out in droves to support Officer Van ****, and then more and more evidence goes to support the likelihood of an unjustified shooting and a subsequent coverup. And yet the pro-cop crowd (of which I am one, btw) won't shut up and say, "Yeah, you're right, the CPD fucked up and Van **** should be prosecuted". They want to keep playing this game. And the more they defend someone this guilty, the more credence they lend to the BLM crowd.

But the BLM crowd, though, THEY won't stop abusing and being general assholes to good cops who are NOT racist fuckheads. And you know what happens then? Cops (and people) start becoming more and more racist. "Look at these ******** burning down their own city", people say, "Look at that disrespect, look at how much damage they're causing".

Both sides refuse to abandon their impossible-to-defend sides, and because of that, this situation keeps spiraling out of control.

[Oswald2001]

The Liberals and other Useful Idiot apologists for...da Black ******* Urban ISIS...are the exact same imbeciles that are bringing in ISIS with the Syrian FAKE 'refugees' all over The West.


They will argue for 'moderate' ISIS and 'moderate' Urban ISIS.

They want to destroy their own societies without suffering any of the consequences themselves.

They are content with YOU suffering the consequences of their insane theories though.


Urban ISIS are indefensible and - it is quite revealing - that NONE of their pathetic 'Defendas' are at the mercy of the Urban ISIS...at the moment.

Like Sheik Hussein Obama, Hitlery, Ketchup Kerry, Cameron, Hollande, Merkel, etc.

They believe that they are 'immune' to the suffering that they cause the rest of the population with their nuturing and protecting of terrorists.

Oh...you haven't noticed that?

Oh, no.

None of the phonies, the Liberal bleeding hearts, the cop haters, etc. are living at the mercy of being victimized by these Trayvon Martin low life Ghetto Trash Thugs.

No. Not one.


They are fine, however, with YOU being victimized by these sociopathic animals.


The only real fix for this is to bring ALL the 'heat'...ALL the consequences...for the actions of these Urban ISIS onto the heads of the Urban ISIS themselves and their imbecile Useful Idiot Defendas.


Ya see, once the pain of consequence starts to set in, the Liberal Useful Idiots will immediately flip.

Just like the Trayvon Martin low life Ghetto Trash "F*ck-da-Po-lice" Thugs.

As soon as - they - are personally victimized by a crime, the first thing they do is...yes..."Call da Police!".

[Markhamed]

Originally Posted by Oswald2001 ↗

The Liberals and other Useful Idiot apologists for...da Black ******* Urban ISIS...are the exact same imbeciles that are bringing in ISIS with the Syrian FAKE 'refugees' all over The West. They will argue for 'moderate' ISIS and 'moderate' Urban ISIS. They want to destroy their own societies without suffering any of the consequences themselves. They are content with YOU suffering the consequences of their insane theories though.

While I agree with a lot of this, I fail to see how it's relevant.

Originally Posted by Oswald2001 ↗

Urban ISIS are indefensible and - it is quite revealing - that NONE of their pathetic 'Defendas' are at the mercy of the Urban ISIS...at the moment.

I'm *definitely* not okay with equating even the *worst* of black America to ISIS. They are not even close to the same thing in any way. ISIS is a sadistic, wealthy, cultish, well-organized militant organization in the name of religion. What you call "urban ISIS" is random, feeds on its own, poverty-ridden, disorganized, guerrilla, and does not equate religion. They are also not inherently sadistic as a rule, and the crimes committed are random acts. In some ways, you're actually complimenting BLM by comparing them to ISIS; in other ways, you're seriously detracting from the threat ISIS poses.

Originally Posted by Oswald2001 ↗

Like Sheik Hussein Obama, Hitlery, Ketchup Kerry, Cameron, Hollande, Merkel, etc.

On a side note, it bothers me when either side makes up derogatory names for the opposition. It's unprofessional, it's unnecessary, it detracts from your own point, and I seriously doubt you want to defend comparing Hillary to Adolph Hitler.

Originally Posted by Oswald2001 ↗

They believe that they are 'immune' to the suffering that they cause the rest of the population with their nurturing and protecting of terrorists. Oh...you haven't noticed that? Oh, no.

The only real fix for this is to bring ALL the 'heat'...ALL the consequences...for the actions of these Urban ISIS onto the heads of the Urban ISIS themselves and their imbecile Useful Idiot Defendas. Ya see, once the pain of consequence starts to set in, the Liberal Useful Idiots will immediately flip. Just like the Trayvon Martin low life Ghetto Trash "F*ck-da-Po-lice" Thugs. As soon as - they - are personally victimized by a crime, the first thing they do is...yes..."Call da Police!".

I can agree with most of this, depending on what you consider "heat". If we were to deliberately subject groups of innocent people to ghetto thug violence to prove a point, we'd be lowering to their level - hence why I can't advocate for a massive pullout of police from a neighborhood without significant testing.

I know none of that was in response to my most recent post, but I'd be interested, Oswald, for you to address it - Can you agree that all cops are not perfect, some are racist, and that we *do* need some form of police accountability? Can you admit that Van **** is in the wrong, given the evidence that's been surfacing recently, and that he deserves adequate punishment for his actions?

[Oswald2001]

All bullsh*t that is typical from a Useful Idiot Liberal.

Let's hear what you have to say after YOU are cost at least $50,000 and or lose a family member(s) to these Urban ISIS.

Or are repeatedly burglarized and/or lose a business due to these animals.

Until then, you are just another delusional...with nothing at risk.

YOU are not living among them.

It costs YOU nothing to be clueless and spew your nonsense.

YOU care nothing about others.

[coverdale0]

At 5:40 right about when he dies an orb comes out of his body. Cool

[Pink.]

Originally Posted by coverdale0 ↗

At 5:40 right about when he dies an orb comes out of his body. Cool

Interesting. Will have to watch this.



as for the 1.5 million dollar bail: In many jurisdictions, bail is not an option and the defendant is remanded when the charges are such as this.

Was this routine in this jurisdiction, or was he granted bail because he is a police officer?

I am just curious and have no horse in this race.

[Markhamed]

Originally Posted by Oswald2001 ↗

All bullsh*t that is typical from a Useful Idiot Liberal.

Given that I'm a firebrand right wing gun toting NRA member racist sexist homophobic Carson-supporting godfearing chicken-eating Patriotic American, I'd say your argument is invalid.

Meh. I'm done with you now. You clearly don't want to act like a grownup.

[Pink.]

Originally Posted by Oleander29 ↗

Given that I'm a firebrand right wing gun toting NRA member racist sexist homophobic Carson-supporting godfearing chicken-eating Patriotic American, I'd say your argument is invalid.

Meh. I'm done with you now. You clearly don't want to act like a grownup.

.......bit but...but How can you support carson and be racist...???


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