[Oswald2001]

Originally Posted by Johnny Wadd ↗

Burning

Yeah, that makes more sense.

[paranormal]

If things continue as before it won't matter if they rebuild it. The invaders will burn it down completely eventually.

[kellyhound]

These rich company assholes gave hundred of millions within 24 days. One even more as the other to get their names mentioned in the news (besides 1)
But after the haiti earthquake France collected only 90 million for their former colony for re build-up showing bricks and culture are more important as human life.
Plus France tax rules tells that 60 pct of the money given by these companies, in these kind of situations, can be tax deducted. Only one company told they will not be doing that, so their good in my book, so i wonder if more companies will follow.

[Oswald2001]

Originally Posted by paranormal ↗

If things continue as before it won't matter if they rebuild it. The invaders will burn it down completely eventually.

Or, turn it into a mosque...

[zuiram]

Devastating news, and I'm glad the damages proved less complete than first feared. It could easily have gone the other way.

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

These rich company assholes gave hundred of millions within 24 days.

Someone spends money on something they- along with most French worthy of oxygen- care about, in a manner that benefits others, and this is a bad thing in your world? Is it because they've accomplished a fair bit more than the average animal and therefore must be suspect when they exercise their property rights the same as you?

One even more as the other to get their names mentioned in the news (besides 1)

News at 9, competitive human beings compete at charity.

Why not cheer them on and encourage them to excel at charity, rather than demanding they bow their heads in shame and hide the donations and be piously altruistic about it? Like, just work with the grain of human nature, not across the grain.

But after the haiti earthquake France collected only 90 million for their former colony for re build-up showing bricks and culture are more important as human life.

Human life feeds off the planet, then feeds worms and slugs.

Sometimes it does more. Creates lasting value and beauty. Defies the intrinsic entropy and decay that define our universe by producing some knowledge or material object, a symbol that lights a flame of hope that maybe, just maybe, the future can be less down to existing and more about living with purpose, one day. Symbols that tell us that some things can endure beyond the moment and that it's worthwhile to make them do so, despite inevitable fate looming in the distance.

Thousands have poured their lives, piecemeal, into such works over time, and that legacy being erased by (probably) some dime a dozen manual labourer, from the same class whining about gas prices and taxes, who just can't be bothered to take the time to ponder whether flying sparks inside a vast wooden furnace is something he should ask a supervisor about before setting ablaze one such symbol, that's at the very least tragic, and unless you want to contend that the value of life is independent of the content of life, then this is a loss of life in a meaningful sense, perhaps more so than the real lives lost in the tragedy (yes, I agree it was tragic) you mention, few of which would have done anything that would echo into the next century, let alone the next millennium as Notre Dame has done.

Plus France tax rules tells that 60 pct of the money given by these companies, in these kind of situations, can be tax deducted.

They tax charitable contributions? Damn, I thought Norwegian tax law was harsh on business owners. One hopes the suits don't find the time to start yellow-vesting in the streets.

Only one company told they will not be doing that, so their good in my book, so i wonder if more companies will follow.

Always cool when people choose to contribute more to the community than the bare minimum.

I get the sense you're not very happy about capital in this context (which tends to suggest not being all that trilled about it in other contexts, either), but it really bears considering that there are no more than three known alternatives for us humans:

- Death on genocidal scales
- The carrot of capitalism
- The whip of slavery

Nothing else has been tried, or even proposed, on any meaningful scale, and it seems unambiguously the case that one of these has a lot more going for it than the other two, even if it's got a lot of problems.

This is a building that's been around "forever", and it is one anyone in France will know, while the majority of France probably has zero personal relationship to the former colony that got hit by a quake. Of course there's going to be a difference in responses. Do you grieve my parents as if they were your own? Or does that close relation determine significance for you as it does for me, and for the French?

This was a terribly sad day.

[flyflicker123]

MEH...

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