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03-05-2011, 04:58 AM
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Re: Mother Cuts Out Heart of Daughter
I am tired of the whole religion stand point, I am an atheist I don't believe in any religion never will, I view religion as a means of control nothing more nothing less, if the sheep want to be sheep let them, only problem is the sheep want to flock..and when they do flock my way of life erodes, damn you sheep.  |
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03-05-2011, 01:24 PM
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Okay you believe in some guy where ever the FUCK he is that has powers you and I don't but I'm an "ignoramus"??? Fuck you and and every other religious NUTCASE on this god awful planet, turned into hell on Earth by you religious nutjobs. GIVE US OUR FUCKIN PLANET BACK. You all have ruined it with war! Name one thing, just ONE, that has killed more ppl besides religion. Yeah-just what I thought! Goodbye! ....oh yeah NO GOD! |
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03-05-2011, 02:07 PM
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Re: Mother Cuts Out Heart of Daughter
Democide Democide is a term revived and redefined by the political scientist R. J. Rummel as "the murder of any person or people by a government, including genocide, politicide, and mass murder." Rummel created the term as an extended concept to include forms of government murder that are not covered by the legal definition of genocide, and it has found currency among other scholars. Rummel presents his definition without referencing any previous uses, but the term democide was defined and used in English more than 40 years earlier by Theodore Abel. Democide is the murder of any person or people by a government, including genocide, politicide, and mass murder. Democide is not necessarily the elimination of entire cultural groups but rather groups within the country that the government feels need to be eradicated for political reasons and due to claimed future threats. According to Rummel, genocide has three different meanings. The ordinary meaning is murder by government of people due to their national, ethnic, racial, or religious group membership. The legal meaning of genocide refers to the international treaty on genocide, the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. This also includes nonlethal acts that in the end eliminate or greatly hinder the group. Looking back on history, one can see the different variations of democides that have occurred, but it still consists of acts of killing or mass murder. A generalized meaning of genocide is similar to the ordinary meaning but also includes government killings of political opponents or otherwise intentional murder. In order to avoid confusion over which meaning is intended, Rummel created the term democide for the third meaning.[5] The objectives of such a plan of democide include the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.[6] Rummel defines democide as "the murder of any person or people by a government, including genocide, politicide, and mass murder". For example, government-sponsored killings for political reasons would be considered democide. Democide can also include deaths arising from "intentionally or knowingly reckless and depraved disregard for life"; this brings into account many deaths arising through various neglects and abuses, such as forced mass starvation. Rummel explicitly excludes battle deaths in his definition. Capital punishment, actions taken against armed civilians during mob action or riot, and the deaths of noncombatants killed during attacks on military targets so long as the primary target is military, are not considered democide.[7] He has further stated: "I use the civil definition of murder, where someone can be guilty of murder if they are responsible in a reckless and wanton way for the loss of life, as in incarcerating people in camps where they may soon die of malnutrition, unattended disease, and forced labor, or deporting them into wastelands where they may die rapidly from exposure and disease." Some examples of democide cited by Rummel include the Great Purges carried out by Joseph Stalin in the Soviet Union (despite those people were executed), the deaths from the colonial policy in the Congo Free State, and Mao Zedong's Great Leap Forward resulting in a famine which killed millions of people. According to Rummel, these were not cases of genocide, because those who were killed were not selected on the basis of their race, but were killed in large numbers as a result of government policies. Famine is classified by Rummel as democide if it fits the definition above. For instance, Rummel only recently classified Mao Zedong's Great Leap Forward as democide. He had believed that Mao's policies were largely responsible for the famine, but that Mao was misled about it, and finally when he found out, he stopped it and changed his policies. Therefore, thought Rummel, it was not an intentional famine and thus not a democide. However, claims from Jung Chang and John Halliday's controversial Mao: the Unknown Story allege that Mao knew about the famine from the beginning but didn't care, and eventually Mao had to be stopped by a meeting of 7,000 top Communist Party members. Based on the book's claims, Rummel now views the famine as intentional and a democide Rummel's counts 43 million deaths due to democide during Stalin's regime inside and outside the Soviet Union. This is much higher than an often quoted figure of 20 million. Rummel has responded that this is based on a figure from Robert Conquest's book The Great Terror from 1968 and that Conquest's qualifier "almost certainly too low" is usually forgotten. Conquest's calculations excluded camp deaths after 1950, and before 1936; executions 1939–53; the vast deportation of the people of captive nations into the camps, and their deaths 1939–1953; the massive deportation within the Soviet Union of minorities 1941–1944 and their deaths; and those the Soviet Red Army and secret police executed throughout Eastern Europe after their conquest during 1944–1945. Moreover, the Holodomor that killed 5 million in 1932–1934 is not included (Please take notice that Stalin was an Atheist) His research shows that the death toll from democide is far greater than the death toll from war. After studying over 8,000 reports of government caused deaths, Rummel estimates that there have been 262 million victims of democide in the last century. According to his figures, six times as many people have died from the inflictions of people working for governments than have died in battle. One of his main findings is that liberal democracies have much less democide than authoritarian regimes.[9] He argues that there is a relation between political power and democide. Political mass murder grows increasingly common as political power becomes unconstrained. At the other end of the scale, where power is diffuse, checked, and balanced, political violence is a rarity. According to Rummel, "The more power a regime has, the more likely people will be killed. This is a major reason for promoting freedom." Rummel concludes: "Concentrated political power is the most dangerous thing on earth." The following chart shows the most murderous regimes on earth. They are mostly tyranical atheist regimes. So much for the religion angle. I await your next emotional rant. Or denial of facts.  · |
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03-05-2011, 02:12 PM
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Re: Mother Cuts Out Heart of Daughter
One more final thought, Since (besides Islamic Nations) most of the worlds government controled armies and military forces and security forces are secular controlled I am quite sure you Atheists have your planet back. Your planet? Really? Atheists are the smallest proportion of the population. So why is it mostly atheists who have usually been in control of the largest atheistic regimes on the planet have killed the most people? Interesting.
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04-24-2011, 11:28 PM
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andrea yates.. when woman kill children and say the did it out of religous reasons, is efukt. that other one who used a rock on a child who is now blind and retarded.
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04-25-2011, 12:12 AM
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Re: Mother Cuts Out Heart of Daughter
Alpha, please show me the biblical text this woman was following? Then compare the one insane act of this lunatic with the measured well thought out acts perpetrated by the atheist regimes of the world who have deliberately murdered humans to the tune of One Hundred Million in the past century.
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