[güttsfükk]

why is it so hard for people to understand that some people just dont care about humans and some people just dont care about animals.

that's all it comes down to whether someone thinks cruelty to animals is worse or not than cruelty to humans.

it's not that hard to understand.

and dont confuse yourself, just because someone is more upset about cruelty to animals doesnt mean that they condone abuse of the frail.

for example

videos of animal gore make me feel uncomfortable to watch,
vids of animal cruelty make me angry
except vids of ppl fucking animals make me laugh

vids of granny or child gore are just as good as any other gore vids
vids of kids or grannycruelty dont upset me, but just the thought of granny or kid porn/sex makes me feel sick

[johnleeknoefler]

Originally Posted by güttsfükk ↗

why is it so hard for people to understand that some people just dont care about humans and some people just dont care about animals.

that's all it comes down to whether someone thinks cruelty to animals is worse or not than cruelty to humans.

it's not that hard to understand.

and dont confuse yourself, just because someone is more upset about cruelty to animals doesnt mean that they condone abuse of the frail.

for example

videos of animal gore make me feel uncomfortable to watch,
vids of animal cruelty make me angry
except vids of ppl fucking animals make me laugh

vids of granny or child gore are just as good as any other gore vids
vids of kids or grannycruelty dont upset me, but just the thought of granny or kid porn/sex makes me feel sick

If a video of a child being abused doesn't upset you while a video of an animal being abused does then I suggest you were frequently abused as a child and learned to identify with the abuser. You can look that up.

The victims behavior towards his abuser is one of identification. The abuser has deep seated psychotic urges that are uncontrollable. His avenue of escape is to focus in on a weak or dependent person. His attacks produce similar feelings of euphoria as a mass killer. But the euphoria is only short term and therefore the abuse continues for as long as the victim survives or the abuse is left uncaught. Regardless of who eventually dies, gets caught, or escapes, the victim will without much trouble begin to duplicate his abuser's personality, likes, wants and actions. Victims identify with their abusers because their abuser had wielded power over them and were therefore powerful. Victims who escape want to be as powerful as their abusers.

Violence is a pattern of learned behavior. It appears to be acquired by exposure, observation and sanctioned within the family. It seems that the repetition of the violence is also due to the lack of any other observed or learned stress responses within the family system. Although a person who has been battered as a child often has intense negative feelings about the parents and their behavior, contradicting these negative feelings are feelings of love for and identification with the parents. Children may take the learned abuser or victim role as an adult. In addition to learning violent behaviors, the children learn adaptive or survival behaviors by which they can avoid being abused. Both the abuser and victim roles are available to children's behavioral repertoires and they find a partner who is also susceptible to enact these roles.

I strongly suggest you do some research on these things. Having in the past admitted you were abused and then defending abuse by blaming the victim puts you firmly in the position of a person who identifies with abusers. You feel much less empathy for human children who are abused because you identify with abusers and find it very easy to rationalize and defend abusive behavior. To you abuse is discipline and a natural behavior. Where to resist abuse is "asking for it" and in your mind a child that does not instantly submit to abuse is in the wrong and should be further abused until the child learns to submit "like a good child should". The outrage you feel when a defenseless animal is abused would be more appropriately felt when you view a child being abused but sadly you cannot allow yourself to feel and empathize with a defenseless child since long ago you rejected that identity and learned to identify with the abuser and by extension with his abuse which you view and beneficial. And so the cycle continues.

[shoottokill]

hey, who didn't grab a kitty and swing it around by the tail as a kid?

[johnleeknoefler]

Originally Posted by shoottokill ↗

hey, who didn't grab a kitty and swing it around by the tail as a kid?

Ok you ornery effer!.

[rapeWhistle]

Originally Posted by azdesertsnake01 ↗

I do NOT condone animal cruelty, however it NEVER ceases to amaze me how people can get more upset about it than they even do child abuse. This site is a prime example. Even pictures of murdered children on here don't get such hateful responses as someone swinging a fucking cat by the tail or killing a cow so they can have a steak or cheeseburger.

Also it's worth noting the absolute stupidity of someone that says someone should be killed because of something they did to an animal. I've seen that stated WAY too many times on the internet, youtube, etc. when it comes to such situations as this.

Yet most of the time the same person would most likely be against the death penalty in murder cases (in other words, an animals life is more valuable than a humans).

It would be interesting to know the statistics of how many of these so called animals rights assholes would choose their own life over an animals if forced to choose.

For instance, if someone were holding a gun to your head and to the head of a stray cat and said one of you has to die, how many would take the bullet themselves over the cat? Something to ponder!

There is no hope for humanity! Perhaps we are dumber than animals after all. It's pure irony that people like animal rights activists are THE BEST example of why humans can be dumber than animals!

The reason people get more upset is because these are companion animals, they're bred to trust and accompany us humans. Abusing these type's of animals offends most people sensibilities more-so than killing an animal for food because it breaks that unspoken trust between the animal and the human being... also, little kids are fucking annoying.

[Sharon]

Little fuckwit, he needs horse-whipped!

[Sharon]

Originally Posted by shoottokill ↗

hey, who didn't grab a kitty and swing it around by the tail as a kid?

My dad actually took a pic of me about to throw a kitten across the yard when I was about 2!!!

The cat was NOT thrown

[silintli]

Originally Posted by azdesertsnake01 ↗

Wow, you've BEEN to AZ? I guess you are a pro then. I've lived here 8 years and have NEVER heard a guy called a cunt. I'm a biker and a motorcycle club member. So foul language is not a foreign concept to me. Yet I have never heard of this.

So I have no idea who the company is that you keep. I provided a damned DICTIONARY DEFINITION of what a cunt is. Yet that still is NOT good enough to put this to rest? I don't know what else to say on that subject.

As far as the cat tail pulling incident. Here's a cut and paste of what the owner of the cat said.

"Mowgli escaped the attack without injury."

As far as the rest of your email, I think I would be doing you an injustice if I did not suggest you seek psychiatric help. Just in what you are saying here, it sounds like you have some serious anxiety issues with humanity as a whole that you need to work out.

I don't know why you chose to reveal all of that, but thank you. It does give a good insight as to how someone could be so misled as to put an animals life over a humans. You may not do that, but many do.

I have friends that have lived there longer than that. You are seriously telling me that you are not familiar with being emasculated as an insult?

Here is a cut and paste of what I said: "Swinging like that can cause damage to the spine, including paralysis and incontinence."

I didn't say it did. I said it could.

[azdesertsnake01]

Originally Posted by silintli ↗

I have friends that have lived there longer than that. You are seriously telling me that you are not familiar with being emasculated as an insult?

Here is a cut and paste of what I said: "Swinging like that can cause damage to the spine, including paralysis and incontinence."

I didn't say it did. I said it could.

Emasculated? I don't see what that has to do with the VERY SPECIFIC definition of what a cunt is. We aren't talking about calling a guy being called a bitch or some other feminine name, but it's about a guy being called a CUNT SPECIFICALLY.

It's obvious that SOME people use the word cunt for guys too, but it is NOT the dictionary definition and hasn't even reached the point of being listed in the dictionary as a slang definition, let alone a literal definition.

I have given a dictionary definition for the word and that was not responded to by anyone who debates this. I really have no patience for people that can't even use a dictionary. Then in my last post I restated that I provided the definition previously.

This is the THIRD TIME I have stated this. Look up the definition and stop putting your own definitions into the situation. Truthfully it doesn't matter if you're from AZ, China or the fucking Antarctica, a dictionary is a dictionary, so use it! Am I the only one speaking English here?

As far as the cat swing, where does the spine start and end, etc. etc., for the third fucking time also I say the cat is fine, MOVE ON!!!

Tens or hundreds of thousands of cats are skinned and eaten daily in China. They are hung upside down and if they are lucky their throats are cut before the Chinese cook starts skinning them. Sometimes they skin them alive. They think of them as chicken.

Personally if I seen that, I would be repulsed, but obviously well over 1 billion Chinese don't feel the same way. Again, get over it. That's life, why worry about what you can't change?

[güttsfükk]

Originally Posted by johnleeknoefler ↗

If a video of a child being abused doesn't upset you while a video of an animal being abused does then I suggest you were frequently abused as a child and learned to identify with the abuser. You can look that up.

that's a pretty retarded statement, just because videos of a child getting kicked about or what ever doesnt upset me doesnt mean i was abused nor does it mean i abuse anyone. i've been a regular gore fan for 15-16 years now and as a result, most videos don't have an affect on me since being desensitized.

watching a video of an act and carrying out an act are two totally different things.