At Least Ten Killed in Charlie Hebdo Shooting in France

[Vodul]

The 2 hostages situations have been simultaneously stopped by the GIGN and the RAID on 01/09/2015. Here is the assault in the kosher supermarket.

[nat906]

Originally Posted by Oswald2001

Germany clearly went after the wrong group last time.

Oops!

too soon oswald but i like were your comin from pmsl

[nat906]

Originally Posted by TheVrist

You do realize Half the middle eastern Muslims tribes are the ones to blame, they sold themselves to the west. Idiot barbaric tribes then start fucking with western partners. Then they started taking their angst outside of the middle east on to westerners. So no one is to blame for act of idiotic terrorism, than those that commit it.

Their perceptual anger for the west started over 60 years ago. Please learn history before you spatter incoherent rants about playing the blaming game.

On a side note, you're from Germany- you still have a few hundred years before you can complain about other countries problems.

it mite even go back a tad further like ww1 i think even before Israel came into being (1948) id say at least 30 years earlier with meddling from Britain to begin with in the middle east.the most recent meddling in middle east affairs is only a further footnote to what has always been a bad marriage (middle east affairs with the western governments )

[nat906]

Originally Posted by K9Grip

It's still illegal to show and discuss many things about WWII in Germany. A lot of the younger generations are clueless as to the true atrocities committed by Germany during that period.

we in the west are too .im no lefty or apologist or a conspiracy freak but we all are a generation drivin by what we are told to think.history books as are the bibles of all faiths just well written story's for the masses to soak up.god even ill write a good biography of myself for my family to read glossing over my faults and mistakes.why shouldn't (history) be any different .

[K9Grip]

Anything new to report?

[Cool_Dog_Group]

You're free to belive what you want. But people are allowed to critizie it too. If you can't take constructive critisizim and use it to improve, then learn to do that.

[K9Grip]

Originally Posted by Cool_Dog_Group

You're free to belive what you want. But people are allowed to critizie it too. If you can't take constructive critisizim and use it to improve, then learn to do that.

Are you talking to me?

[K9Grip]

Not a big CNN fan, but....

"(CNN)French law enforcement officers have been told to erase their social media presence and to carry their weapons at all times because terror sleeper cells have been activated over the last 24 hours in the country, a French police source who attended a briefing Saturday told CNN terror analyst Samuel Laurent.

Amedy Coulibaly, a suspect killed Friday during a deadly kosher market hostage siege, had made several phone calls about targeting police officers in France, according to the source.

It was one of a flurry of developments Saturday, including reporting in a French-language magazine that brothers Cherif and Said Kouachi had been under watch by the French, but despite red flags, authorities there lost interest in them.

L'Express national security reporter Eric Pelletier shared with CNN details of his story, for which he talked to multiple French officials.

Tipped off by U.S. intelligence agencies that Said Kouachi may have traveled to Yemen in July, France placed him under surveillance in November 2011 but terminated the scrutiny in June 2014 when French security services deemed him no longer dangerous, officials told Pelletier.

The surveillance of his brother Cherif terminated at the end of 2013 when his phone calls suggested he had disengaged with violent extremism and was focused on counterfeiting clothing and shoes.

A U.S. official told CNN's Barbara Starr that Said Kouachi's 2011 travel lasted three or more months and that he is believed to have trained with al Qaeda in Yemen during that period.

French intelligence officials believe there is a strong probability Cherif Kouachi also traveled to Yemen for a short trip in 2011, separately from his brother, Pelletier's sources told him.

A Yemeni journalist and researcher, Mohammed al-Kibsi, told CNN that he had met and spoken with Said Kouachi in Yemen in 2011 and 2012.

But al-Kibsi, who said he met the man twice, said Said Kouachi was in Yemen most of 2011. Kouachi first went there in 2009 and stayed until mid-2010 before leaving briefly and returning at the end of that year, according to al-Kibsi.

Kouachi entered Yemen multiple times with an officially issued visa, a senior Yemeni national security official told CNN.

"Said was not being watched during the duration of his stay in Yemen because he was not on the watch list," said the official, adding that, at the time, Yemen's Western allies had not raised concerns about Kouachi. The official did not specify when the visits took place.

Kouachi, who was studying Arabic grammar, and underwear bomber Umar Farouk AbdulMutallab previously were roommates for one to two weeks in Yemen's capital, Sanaa, living in the same small apartment, al-Kibsi said. AbdulMutallab is serving a life sentence for trying to bring down a Northwest airlines flight over Detroit on Christmas in 2009 with an underwear bomb.

Kouachi's residence was very near to the famous Al-Tabari School and he and AbdulMutallab used to pray together there, said al-Kibsi by telephone Saturday. It wasn't clear when they were roommates, but AbdulMutallab was arrested after the 2009 bombing attempt.

There has been no official confirmation of the claim that he and AbdulMutallab were associates.

The Kouachi brothers, who authorities say carried out Wednesday's deadly attack in the offices of satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, were killed Friday in a shootout with French security forces outside of Paris.

France, meanwhile, continues to cope with three days of terror that left 17 people dead. Thousands gathered on the streets for vigils Saturday and hundreds of thousands were expected at massive rallies Sunday, along with heads of state and other dignitaries."



What's protocol in France for the bodies of the Kouachi brothers? Do you have to follow their set religious standard?

[chris]

I just wanted to get this posted to the site to show my support for those at Charlie Hebdo. This is the cartoon that seems to have upset the terrorists the most, so of course, I wanted to display it in a post.

I have no idea what it says, so if anyone wants to translate it for us, that would be nice. In fact, if you want to use this thread to post more of the Charlie Hebdo cartoons that would be great as well.

[K9Grip]

Originally Posted by nat906

we in the west are too .im no lefty or apologist or a conspiracy freak but we all are a generation drivin by what we are told to think.history books as are the bibles of all faiths just well written story's for the masses to soak up.god even ill write a good biography of myself for my family to read glossing over my faults and mistakes.why shouldn't (history) be any different .

When most people die you don't generally write a scathing review of them, but then again most of us don't commit an insane number of murders.



Is the USA perfect, no. But, Vrist already covered some of that. My family is fairly new to this country, so at times I don't which leg to stand on. America or Croatia? Every country has some kind of negative history, some worse than others. But my main point was that Germany wants us all to be tolerant of every nation, religion, skin color, etc. but, they censor certain parts of Nazism. You can use the swastika, but not promote Hitler/Nazis.

Even the book Mein Kampf, has stipulations. "The government of Bavaria, in agreement with the federal government of Germany, refuses to allow any copying or printing of the book in Germany, and opposed it also in other countries with less success. Owning and buying the book is legal. Trading in old copies is legal as well, unless it is done in such a fashion as to "promote hatred or war," which is generally illegal."


I see many radical Muslims promoting the killing of anyone they dislike and calling for a holy war, all the time. How can you tolerate this, but not the other?