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Old 06-23-2012, 12:31 AM
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Re: July 12- ISP Surveillance Goes into Effect

I am not going to incriminate myself here, but I do believe "piracy" has its place, I do not care about movies or TV (except Top Gear) so I don't have much to say on that subject, but the gaming industry should be an example to the rest

companies like Valve have it figured out with Steam, just for the sake of examples I will use Left 4 Dead 2, you can pirate L4D2 all day long if you want, but when it was released, pirating it never even crossed my mind, why? for one you cannot play it online which more or less kills the whole experience, and two it simply appealed to me so much I was willing to pay money for it

if I do not like a game I will not pirate it, and certainly will not buy it so nothing is lost, and if a game is released that I like, chances are its a multiplayer game that you cannot pirate effectively anyhow, and if I cannot afford to buy the game? then I obviously do not want it bad enough to save for it, so they still get no money from me, so what happens if I go and pirate it? this is the can of worms no one seems to be able to figure out, that being your experience through someones "intellectual property" and what it should constitute, what it should be worth

why can't movies find a way to do this? stop releasing things on physical media IT WILL BE RIPPED no matter what you do, build upon things like Netflix to replace them, preventing the redistribution of media through streaming is slightly more feasible than with physical media

not an air tight solution to be sure, but piracy is never going to bring the movie industry to its knees so who cares?

this has nothing to do with being American by the way, this is about human nature, greed and control have always been a problem and won't be going away until we all die, but hey! we are trying our best damnit

oh.. and as for the topic of this thread I say HAH, ISP's have always had the power to "monitor" our useage and always will, all this scheme is trying to do is remove the middle man, as it stands right now all it takes is probable cause and a search warrant to get your ISP to hand over your usage information, the RIAA just wants the freedom to spy on you 24/7 without restrictions, your ISP doesn't give a damn what you do as long as you pay the bill, and they never will unless the RIAA is allowed to start climbing down their throats and into their pockets

but I highly doubt this will ever happen, giving the recording industry the power to do things the government(using this as a blanket term) cannot legally do? and the government doesn't care if you downloaded the Avengers, unless it turns out that what you downloaded was a porn parody with underage girls "acting" in it, then they care and want to have a look at your hard drives(terrible pun intended)

Edit, uh.. that was much longer than I expected, sorry

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Old 06-23-2012, 03:10 AM
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Maybe if the movie industry slashed the price of their dvds many fewer people would bother to do illegal downloads. $35 for a new release dvd?? Fuck that when i can find it for free on a torrent site.

I see why the industry wants to stop pirating, but they have brought it upon themselves for being greedy money grubs.

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Old 06-28-2012, 12:54 AM
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:38 AM
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here's another way to look at this. You pay for internet. Therefore, when this goes into affect, you'll be paying them to spy on you. Oh, how wonderful.

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Old 06-30-2012, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by playwithursoul View Post
here's another way to look at this. You pay for internet. Therefore, when this goes into affect, you'll be paying them to spy on you. Oh, how wonderful.
yep.. as if "we" dont give up enough of our privacy with facebook..

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