[rob666]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

You're explaining this as if israel was the sole aggressor. Violence started almost immediately after the UN announced partition. And they would fight israel till the last drop of their blood is shed was the Arab message to the UN.

And all Muslim nations came together to kill every Jew in the middle east. And they began massacres on settlements, targeting men women and children.

Even as the Arabs were victorious, and Jews laid down their arms, they were all executed.

At the time the Arabs didn't deny they started the war. Now of course they're pushing blame, but in 1948 they took full responsibility for starting it.


Jamal Husseini told the Security Council on April 16, 1948

"The representative of the Jewish Agency told us yesterday that they were not the attackers, that the Arabs had begun the fighting. We did not deny this. We told the whole world that we were going to fight"

Here's the best analogy I can manage, I'll attempt to put it in a context you can relate to.

You are worried about Muslim immigrants effecting our way of life correct? Well, what would happen if Muslim extremists decided that they wanted to make the United States a new homeland?

So they started illegally immigrating there, and using their resources to buy any available land in an effort to displace Americans.

Over the course of 100 years, these Muslims go from being 4% of the population to over 30% of the population. They go from owning 1-2% of the land to 6% of the land.

Then, the Muslims decide that they want to partition America. They want independence. But, they want half of the land despite only owning 6% of it and having only 30% of the population.

In 100 years, they have gone from being 4% of the population to taking half of the fucking country.

This is exactly what happened in Israel. Fast forward to today, and this is everyone's worst nightmare when it comes to Syrian refugees and Muslim immigration.
There is no debating it, this is historical fact.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by TheVrist ↗

All one needs to do is dissect the Diary of Israeli's leader of that time.

It's not like this info is hidden, or a conspiracy theory, hell you can go on their virtual library and see their personal accounts of the history!

In many ways they BOAST about what they did. But how can they hide it? Many Zionist raised Jews that are against it speak out, many ex-zionist speak out. Just they get muffled out by the majority.

Noam Chomsky- Jewish, raised in Zion household-
Happy reading- https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/essays/rokach.html

Ben Freedman's speech- Ben freedman is an ex-Zionist, that has sat up there side by side with some of the biggest of the biggest elites, he later left Zionism behind, and spent his life's fortune (a couple of million, which was a lot in the 60s) to expose the Zionist Elites, and their evil deeds in power. The problem was though, Neo-Nazis in the 70s used his writing, his public speech as their pocket proof of their stance, totally discrediting his message to the mass audience. He was labeled a self hating Jew, etc etc, and obviously anyone that bought into anything he said were antisemitic.

(conspiracy theory)
It is said, that his influential speech, and work, is what made JFK decide to attempt to abolish central banking in America. JFK was shot six months later, and Johnson tossed that idea out, right away. Not a single politician has even entertained the idea, and leaders all over the world that attempts it, war is waged on them.



And many more like them- Just it all falls on deaf ears, because who owns the monopoly of media influence-

Canada passed a law last year that basically made it possible to face criminal charges for criticizing
Israeli policy.

Not invoking or inciting hate, or promoting any kind of anti Jewish agenda, or belonging to a hate group....... For criticizing the actions of a Government.

There was a movement that proposed labeling all imported goods that are produced in the occupied territories. Our Government quickly labeled this as 'The new face of antisemitism".

[TheVrist]

Originally Posted by rob666 ↗

Canada passed a law last year that basically made it possible to face criminal charges for criticizing
Israeli policy.

Not invoking or inciting hate, or promoting any kind of anti Jewish agenda, or belonging to a hate group....... For criticizing the actions of a Government.

There was a movement that proposed labeling all imported goods that are produced in the occupied territories. Our Government quickly labeled this as 'The new face of antisemitism".

It would be like that here too, if "freedom of speech" wasn't like the whole "America, land of the free" deal...

So basically what we have are very heavily funded organizations that will nail your dick to the wall for spreading even public information.

[lobo221]

First thing they will do is make the "public information" hard to obtain.

[rob666]

^^^^ it's already started.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by TheVrist ↗

It would be like that here too, if "freedom of speech" wasn't like the whole "America, land of the free" deal...

So basically what we have are very heavily funded organizations that will nail your dick to the wall for spreading even public information.

I can understand the need to put some limitations on speech, such as if someone was inciting violence towards a group based on race or ethnic origin, or sexual preference.

But as we're seeing that whole idea is a slippery slope. It hasn't been challenged in court yet, my guess is that it will be overturned. Our current government has a bad record in court challenges, for bullshit such as this.

[niknik]

Originally Posted by rob666 ↗

Here's the best analogy I can manage, I'll attempt to put it in a context you can relate to.

You are worried about Muslim immigrants effecting our way of life correct? Well, what would happen if Muslim extremists decided that they wanted to make the United States a new homeland?

So they started illegally immigrating there, and using their resources to buy any available land in an effort to displace Americans.

Over the course of 100 years, these Muslims go from being 4% of the population to over 30% of the population. They go from owning 1-2% of the land to 6% of the land.

Then, the Muslims decide that they want to partition America. They want independence. But, they want half of the land despite only owning 6% of it and having only 30% of the population.

In 100 years, they have gone from being 4% of the population to taking half of the fucking country.

This is exactly what happened in Israel. Fast forward to today, and this is everyone's worst nightmare when it comes to Syrian refugees and Muslim immigration.
There is no debating it, this is historical fact.

O My God

Please for the love of his Holiness. Get a few history books and fucking read.

Your analogy is lacking to say the least..

I won't even get into the Real history. I'll just add something to your analogy, which I think is absurd someone actually believes. But first, noticed you used "Extremist" Muslims to play the part of the Jews, ya know, the Jews fleeing the Holocaust and had their homes taken away. The Jews who just had basically everything taken away. Then they go back to their homeland, and are also not welcome. And they're told they will have to live under Muslim laws, which basically bars them from having a life.

So basically most of them just survived the brutality against Jews in pre/during ww2. Which I don't think is possible to overstate, was incredibly horrific for them.

Now they're back in Israel, and it's the same thing they just left. They're getting blamed for everything, they're being told where to live, they can't own a business, people are trying to kill them.

So they decide that they won't be pushed from their homes anymore. And they will fight, and create a nation where no Jews will be 2nd class, and have their businesses and homes stolen. Or ever have to ride a train with their families to their deaths ever again.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

O My God

Please for the love of his Holiness. Get a few history books and fucking read.

Your analogy is lacking to say the least..

I won't even get into the Real history. I'll just add something to your analogy, which I think is absurd someone actually believes. But first, noticed you used "Extremist" Muslims to play the part of the Jews, ya know, the Jews fleeing the Holocaust and had their homes taken away. The Jews who just had basically everything taken away. Then they go back to their homeland, and are also not welcome. And they're told they will have to live under Muslim laws, which basically bars them from having a life.

So basically most of them just survived the brutality against Jews in pre/during ww2. Which I don't think is possible to overstate, was incredibly horrific for them.

Now they're back in Israel, and it's the same thing they just left. They're getting blamed for everything, they're being told where to live, they can't own a business, people are trying to kill them.

So they decide that they won't be pushed from their homes anymore. And they will fight, and create a nation where no Jews will be 2nd class, and have their businesses and homes stolen. Or ever have to ride a train with their families to their deaths ever again.

That's nice that you couldn't even point out out thing I wrote that was inaccurate you stupid fuck.

How in the fuck can it be their "homeland" when they made up less than 4% of the population? How far back in history do you need to go to find a time when they were the majority of the population?

You like that I said Muslim extremists? Are Zionists NOT extreme? That's nice how you only mention Jews fleeing the holocaust too, because if someone actually cared about the FACTS they'd look and see that the mass illegal immigration started LONG before that.

Facts seem to mean absolutely nothing to you. You just keep bleating like a fucking sheep. I'm done with you, go attempt to find someone else to put up with your idiocy.

[Sharon]

Originally Posted by m1324 ↗

Take the average American liberal, multiply his stupidity by 1000, and you got the European liberal. Trust me, I've lived here all my life. It's insane.

Second that. Liberalism is a very dangerous and destructive game.

A girl passed me yesterday with fucking "refugees welcome" on her face in white face paint. Really??? I wanted to have a right rant. Okay miss, you have 6 of them living with you while they wait to be accomodated by the local council. Do you qualify for social housing btw? No. You don't do you so hope you're pleased to be pushed back down the queue again while you struggle on paying extortionate rent in a room

[TheVrist]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

O My God

Please for the love of his Holiness. Get a few history books and fucking read.

Your analogy is lacking to say the least..

I won't even get into the Real history. I'll just add something to your analogy, which I think is absurd someone actually believes. But first, noticed you used "Extremist" Muslims to play the part of the Jews, ya know, the Jews fleeing the Holocaust and had their homes taken away. The Jews who just had basically everything taken away. Then they go back to their homeland, and are also not welcome. And they're told they will have to live under Muslim laws, which basically bars them from having a life.

So basically most of them just survived the brutality against Jews in pre/during ww2. Which I don't think is possible to overstate, was incredibly horrific for them.

Now they're back in Israel, and it's the same thing they just left. They're getting blamed for everything, they're being told where to live, they can't own a business, people are trying to kill them.

So they decide that they won't be pushed from their homes anymore. And they will fight, and create a nation where no Jews will be 2nd class, and have their businesses and homes stolen. Or ever have to ride a train with their families to their deaths ever again.

There is SO much more to it than that Nik.

You do realize, Zionist threw those Jews under the bus, because they were not getting what they wanted, WHEN they wanted?

Majority of those Jewish people didn't care one way or the other, if Israel was a state or not. Just like today, only a sector of Jewish people care. Zions knew they didn't either, so used them as bargaining chips.