[kellyhound]

Gunman who killed three during Texas Target shooting rampage ID'ed as Ethan Blaine Nieneker, 32, a violent felon with mental health issues.

He shot the victims in the parking lot, stole two cars during escape and was detained 20 miles away.

The victims are: Hector Leopoldo Martinez Machuca, 24, a Target employee. Adam Chow, 65, a grandfather and 4-year-old girl, Adam Chow's granddaughter.

[jennyt]

Living in America is weird. I haven’t even seen anything about this. It happens so often people don’t even talk about this stuff anymore.

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by jennyt ↗

Living in America is weird. I haven’t even seen anything about this. It happens so often people don’t even talk about this stuff anymore.

268 mass shootings so far in 2025 that killed 262 people and wounded 1,161 people. That's a 25% decrease from last year and 44% from the year before so we're heading into the right direction.

[Mr.NoCredit]

These fucking loony toons that don’t take their medication.

[IvorySmith]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

268 mass shootings so far in 2025 that killed 262 people and wounded 1,161 people. That's a 25% decrease from last year and 44% from the year before so we're heading into the right direction.

In all fairness, that depends on which definition of "mass shooting" you use:

FBI defined a “mass murder” as four or more people killed in a single incident, not including the shooter, and usually in one location.

Congressional Research Service (CRS): Often uses the same “four or more killed” standard when analyzing “public mass shootings.”

Gun Violence Archive (GVA): Uses a much broader definition: a shooting where four or more people are shot (injured or killed), not including the shooter.

Mother Jones (media tracking): Counts incidents with three or more killed, not including the shooter, and excludes gang-related or robbery-related shootings.

Media can pick and choose.

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by IvorySmith ↗

In all fairness, that depends on which definition of "mass shooting" you use:

FBI defined a “mass murder” as four or more people killed in a single incident, not including the shooter, and usually in one location.

Congressional Research Service (CRS): Often uses the same “four or more killed” standard when analyzing “public mass shootings.”

Gun Violence Archive (GVA): Uses a much broader definition: a shooting where four or more people are shot (injured or killed), not including the shooter.

Mother Jones (media tracking): Counts incidents with three or more killed, not including the shooter, and excludes gang-related or robbery-related shootings.

Media can pick and choose.

Correct:

Definitions affect the resulting counts. One analysis compared seven databases
that kept track of mass shootings in 2019.

The database with the narrowest definition (the incident had to occur in a public place and involve indiscriminate violence [i.e., this excluded armed robberies, gang violence, and domestic violence]
that resulted in the deaths of at least four people [not counting the shooter]) calculated that there had been 6 incidents during the entire year.

In contrast, the database with the broadest definition (the incident could occur in any place, under any circumstances, so long as at least four people [including the shooter] were injured [i.e., fatalities were unne

https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/cgi/v...ntext=numeracy

imo there should be one official standard but if you choose one database and look at those numbers year after year you can still see if there's a de or increase of victims.

Also there could be a decrease in mass shootings but on the other hand an increase of other, deadly, shootings, with 4 or less victims, so the total victim count by gun violence could be rising when the mass shootings are going down meaning it ain't getting any safer.

[IvorySmith]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

Correct:
https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/cgi/v...ntext=numeracy

imo there should be one official standard but if you choose one database and look at those numbers year after year you can still see if there's a de or increase of victims.

Also there could be a decrease in mass shootings but on the other hand an increase of other, deadly, shootings, with 4 or less victims, so the total victim count by gun violence could be rising when the mass shootings are going down meaning it ain't getting any safer.

That's actually worse, I think, if the victim count is rising but mass shootings are decreasing. I think if that happens, then it is indicative of a highly stressful environment. That doesn't look great for "the greatest country" in the world. It seems more like the logical conclusion for a sick society when the drugs stop effectively quelling people's cognitive dissonance.

But if mass shootings increase, then that seems more indicative of ideologically motivated people. Maybe they're mentally unstable, but ideology and theology are, historically, huge motivators for people to commit mass murder.

That's what's interesting about this topic... trying to look through the information and separate inner-city gun violence (turf wars) from mentally deranged kids in classrooms, from ideologically motivated terrorists, from people who have had enough and snapped, and to see how many come from which group.
My money would be on people snapping under pressure, but I haven't looked enough into it to know.

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by IvorySmith ↗

My money would be on people snapping under pressure, but I haven't looked enough into it to know.

Around 40-50%: Many mass shooters are driven by a desire for retribution against perceived wrongs, whether personal, social, or institutional.

This includes workplace disputes, social rejection, or feelings of being wronged by specific groups or society at large.

Studies, like those from the FBI and The Violence Project, note that shooters often target places or people tied to their grievances, such as schools or workplaces where they feel humiliated or marginalized.

Around 30-40%: Psychological distress, including depression, paranoia, or untreated mental illnesses, is a significant factor.

The Violence Project reports that over 80% of mass shooters showed signs of emotional crisis, such as isolation or agitation, before their attacks.

While not all shooters have diagnosed mental illnesses, many exhibit suicidal ideation or a "final cry for help," with some incidents doubling as suicide attempts.

Around 15-25% are motivated by ideological beliefs, including white supremacy, anti-Semitism, or other extremist views.

The Counterterrorism Group notes that far-right ideologies, amplified online, contribute to a portion of attacks, with about 20-30% of shootings showing ideological influences, particularly in cases targeting specific racial or religious groups.

Around 10-20% of shooters seeks infamy or media attention, often inspired by previous mass shootings.

The Violence Project highlights that 20-30% of mass shootings are influenced by prior attacks, with perpetrators studying or referencing events like Columbine.

The desire for notoriety is often tied to cultural factors, like media sensationalism, which can amplify the copycat phenomenon.

Also feelings of disconnection or rejection are common among shooters, particularly younger ones.

The Violence Project notes that many shooters, especially school shooters, experience social isolation or bullying, which compounds other grievances.

This factor often overlaps with mental health issues or revenge motives but is distinct in its focus on a lack of social bonds.

While not a direct motive, easy access to guns, particularly high-capacity or assault-style weapons, is a critical enabler.

The U.S. has about 120 guns per 100 people, the highest globally, and studies suggest this accessibility amplifies the lethality and frequency of attacks.

It’s not a "reason" in itself but a factor that makes acting on motives more feasible.

Often all these reasons combined makes some do it.

There was a rise each year between 2018 and 2023, esp. 2020-2023 before the numbers dropped again almost year after year esp 2024/2025.

Those higher numbers, 2020,21,22 and 2023 likely because of the COVID-19 pandemic stress factors.

Most shooting happen in Cali, Texas and Florida.

[houseoftechno]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

...a violent felon with mental health issues.

Based on his rap sheet, I call this a violent felon with drug & alcohol issues. Erase drugs and alcohol from his life, he would have a chance to deal with life.