[spudigitti]

Originally Posted by bob351 ↗

The lakes here in the summer get about that warm, give or take a few depending in where you are.

No the med would be freezing cold this time of year...

[vagabond]

Terrible- again, all this tragedy around the holidays

[bob351]

Originally Posted by spudigitti ↗

No the med would be freezing cold this time of year...

I checked before I posted, from sea surface temps it was 16c. Lakes here range in July from 12-20c depending on how cold the winter was and what part of the lake.

[gatagato]

Originally Posted by bob351 ↗

I checked before I posted, from sea surface temps it was 16c. Lakes here range in July from 12-20c depending on how cold the winter was and what part of the lake.

It's correct: it's 16/ 16,2 c righ now: this caused the so called sea smoke effect, which reduced the visibility to less than 50 meters according to the rescuers, which further complicated the SAR operations.

[spudigitti]

Originally Posted by bob351 ↗

I checked before I posted, from sea surface temps it was 16c. Lakes here range in July from 12-20c depending on how cold the winter was and what part of the lake.

16 c is cold at this time of year with only 8 hours daylight and a gale blowing the med isn't a lake in July are you insane have you ever swam in the med it's cool in July and August this time of year its freezing if you jumped in you could get a heart attack...
Numbers on a screen aren't real life....

[bob351]

They are real life numbers, that's the temperature of the Mediterranean where the boat was.

[bob351]

The ocean near dublin right now is 11.1c... the water by toronto is -1c.

Science.

[bob351]

Not sure if you have even fallen through a sheet of ice into water below 0 but that's cold.

The guy who jumped might have never had an experience with colder water and like you said could have gone into shock, might have been a terrible swimmer, there are a bunch of reasons but I find it hard to believe he would have succumb to hypothermia in an hour in that temperature of water. Not saying its tropical weather by a long shot here but 16c is more than survivable temps for a decent period.

The shock response of the human body is a big killer, you cant really control breathing when entering cold water so you need to know how to survive.

We take courses here on cold water survival especially if you are a boater or do lots of ice fishing.

[spudigitti]

Originally Posted by bob351 ↗

Not sure if you have even fallen through a sheet of ice into water below 0 but that's cold.

The guy who jumped might have never had an experience with colder water and like you said could have gone into shock, might have been a terrible swimmer, there are a bunch of reasons but I find it hard to believe he would have succumb to hypothermia in an hour in that temperature of water. Not saying its tropical weather by a long shot here but 16c is more than survivable temps for a decent period.

The shock response of the human body is a big killer, you cant really control breathing when entering cold water so you need to know how to survive.

We take courses here on cold water survival especially if you are a boater or do lots of ice fishing.

I spend a good bit of time in the med a few Xmas ago in marbella in Spain I jumped in the water Xmas morning I nearly had a heart attack it was effin freezing...
Never again at that time of year.
I was in the Côte da zur 2 years ago in may the sea was very cold very...
Don't believe the holiday brochures that show miles of sandy beaches either tennis ball sized rocks except for Monte Carlo they paid for the stones or rocks to be removed and sand bedded in..

[spudigitti]

Originally Posted by bob351 ↗

The ocean near dublin right now is 11.1c... the water by toronto is -1c.

Science.

I'm 150 kilometres south of Dublin in Wexford town and my address is the postal district of the mountain.
Mountain my ass compared to the Rockies I can see the beach of curracloe from the front lawn...