[chris]

In late 2016, Cameron W. Johnson of Wyoming, Minnesota, overdosed on Oxycodone from the Darknet. The Oxycodone that tragically ended his life, as seen in several cases recently, was not Oxy. For those less familiar with the actual drug names, Roxicodone or OxyCONTIN might paint a more vivid picture. Regardless, the 18 year-old believed he took a pill he felt familiar with. His girlfriend found him and shortly after failed resuscitation attempts and a phone call, paramedics arrived and announced that Johnson passed away.

When law enforcement arrived on the scene, Johnson’s girlfriend explained the situation. Or, according to the criminal complaint, how she thought the situation unfolded. At the time, police said, she believed that two friends of hers gave the pills to her former boyfriend.

Law enforcement then opened an investigation into the case. Johnson’s toxicology report came back as positive for Fentanyl. He came back positive from his position medications as well; they may have played a role in the death. Johnson took mental health medication and Xanax, his girlfriend told police. If the 18-year-old took Xanax near the time he took the fentanyl-laced oxycodone, the chance of lethal CNS depression increase drastically.

There were four more fake oxycodone pills from Menne found in the bathroom with Johnson’s body, the girlfriend told the police.

So far, news outlets have not confirmed or denied the presence of true oxycodone. If they contained oxycodone as well as Fentanyl, both suspects received charges that reflected the potential accidental nature of the crime: third-degree murder. If no oxycodone appeared in the blood, an official explained, the door for other possibilities opened up.

Under Minnesota laws, anyone who unintentionally sells drugs that directly lead to the person’s overdose face third degree murder charges. This law is contingent upon the drug bring an illegal schedule one or schedule two drug. Intentionally providing someone with directly fatal substances is inherently a premeditated murder interested of a charge that boils down to criminal negligent manslaughter.

An Ohio man recently pleaded guilty to an unrelated crime – but of the same criminal sector. He sold a client Fentanyl from China, the buyer died, and the Ohio man pleaded guilty to possession of with intent.

The two suspects, Alexander James Menne and his 17-year-old parents bought hundreds of the pills every week, Johnson’s girlfriend said. Police explained that they found several of the pills near Johnson’s body—green pills that tested positive for Fentanyl. The suspects, if what the girlfriend explained held any weight, must have known the strength of the pills. Menne’s lawyer argued that no evidence existed to back up the claim and similarly the prosecution lacked evidence that linked Menne to the death of Johnson. A single text message is the only incriminating evidence made public and shortly before his death, Johnson said “I just snorted a tiny line and I am [expletive]-up dude ur gunna be mind blown by this … it’s awesome and we can make so much … money off of these.” This, of course went from the deceased’s phone to the suspect’s phone number. Problematically for the prosecution, Johnson sent the message to a character named bubbles.

After searches of Penne’s electronic equipment, they found evidence that pointed towards at least part of the girlfriend’s statement. He appeared to frequently use the Darknet or specifically the Darknet marketplaces – to what degree or extent, we have yet to find out.

Many parts of the case remained confidential until recently as to keep the investigation from corruption. Since both suspects stood in front of separate judges and each received third degree murder charges, the case details have begun to surface.

[Wildrice]

This actually happens more than expected. Lost a few people I know from that exact issue. You can buy the stuff from china froma rc lab.

[Kanda444]

wow, that's fucked

[Oswald2001]

I'm expecting to see a whole lot more of these type of incidents.

[CrunchyCripple]

You'd think Fentanyl would be more expensive than Oxy. I guess not.

And why not be forthcoming with what it is? If it gets you high - they aren't going to care. Junkies don't seem to be the most picky of consumers.

[Cancun78]

Originally Posted by Oswald2001 ↗

I'm expecting to see a whole lot more of these type of incidents.

Saw in the news A morgue in Ohio had to rent a van or something to store bodies because of the number of fatal ods.

I wondered the other day, if this will be the last generation to get hooked on these drugs because of all this attention on this subject.

[Azimuth]

Originally Posted by chris ↗

Police explained that they found several of the pills near Johnson’s body—green pills that tested positive for Fentanyl. The suspects, if what the girlfriend explained held any weight, must have known the strength of the pills.

I wonder what strength they thought they were? Green oxy's are 15mg, 30mg, 80mg, depending. I'd like to know what the imprint on the pills was.

[Azimuth]

Originally Posted by CrunchyCripple ↗

You'd think Fentanyl would be more expensive than Oxy. I guess not.

And why not be forthcoming with what it is? If it gets you high - they aren't going to care. Junkies don't seem to be the most picky of consumers.

Some of them are. If they are aware of an allergy, I wouldn't think they're going to knowingly purchase that particular drug. (If we are talking about rx drugs.)

[Oswald2001]

Originally Posted by Cancun78 ↗

Saw in the news A morgue in Ohio had to rent a van or something to store bodies because of the number of fatal ods.

I wondered the other day, if this will be the last generation to get hooked on these drugs because of all this attention on this subject.

Carfentanil is supposedly 100x stronger than Fentanyl (10,000x more powerful than morphine) and is becoming increasingly available.


At this point, the drugs are so powerful that they cannot be reliably mixed thoroughly and uniformly enough with inert ingredients - outside a laboratory - prior to handling by an end user.

The very slightest lack of uniformity of a 'cut' means that some doses are stronger - very easily lethally so - and others are weaker.

If you are dealing with heroin, the differences in dose strength are not as likely to end in death by overdose, though it does still happen.

Since Fentanyl is 50x stronger than heroin, differences in dose strength are understandably causing many more deaths by overdose than did heroin.

With Carfentanil being 100x stronger than even Fentanyl, the differences in dose strength are more lethal than ever before.


And there will likely be another 'Super Opioid' that will come along that far surpasses Carfentanil in strength and lethality.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8a7353f3b4a9

[FunkPumpkin]

Originally Posted by Oswald2001 ↗

And there will likely be another 'Super Opioid' that will come along that far surpasses Carfentanil in strength and lethality.

Sad, but you are very likely to be correct. I was very surprised when there started being confirmed reports of illicit carfentanil causing people to OD. That shit is wicked-powerful and virtually impossible to use recreationally.

*sigh* I guess it's only a matter of time before we hear reports of ohmefentanyl ODs next.

The 4"-fluoro analogue (i.e. substituted on the phenethyl ring) of the 3R,4S,βS isomer of ohmefentanyl is one of the most potent opioid agonists yet discovered, possessing an analgesic potency approximately 18,000-fold greater than morphine. Other analogues with potency higher than that of ohmefentanyl itself include the 2'-fluoro derivative (i.e. substituted on the aniline phenyl ring), and derivatives where the N-propionyl group was replaced by N-methoxyacetyl or 2-furamide groups, or a carboethoxy group is added to the 4-position of the piperidine ring. The latter is listed as being up to 30,000 times more potent than morphine