[TheVrist]

Originally Posted by BryanXavier ↗

That's what's probably going to happen. Lotsa casualties on both sides. If the media (I've postulated this before) accurately showed the violent crimes blacks committed against whites many innocents on both sides would get caught up in a race war.

There are some older generations, in the black community, with financial backing, keeping this alive. Mainly because they are wanting a real, 1960s style war to resurface.

They still think "change" is needed for their race. But for the past 30+ years, in their old-set-in-their-ways mind, nothing has significantly changed.

The evolving has been slow, and stagnant in their opinion for civil rights. They feel that the younger generation as become lazy, and lack luster in "fighting for their rights"

I lurk on a pretty well known Chicago civil defense lawyer's FB- mainly discussions about things like this. He is a big voice in the black community, uses absolutely nothing but progressive media to push his agenda. Has a followers base of some very successful blacks. His approach is that of something like Farrakhan, but more of christain motivated undertone.

They openly preach that peaceful protest will not get results.

They are still stuck on 1960s mode.

[niknik]

Originally Posted by TheVrist ↗

There are some older generations, in the black community, with financial backing, keeping this alive. Mainly because they are wanting a real, 1960s style war to resurface.

They still think "change" is needed for their race. But for the past 30+ years, in their old-set-in-their-ways mind, nothing has significantly changed.

The evolving has been slow, and stagnant in their opinion for civil rights. They feel that the younger generation as become lazy, and lack luster in "fighting for their rights"

I lurk on a pretty well known Chicago civil defense lawyer's FB- mainly discussions about things like this. He is a big voice in the black community, uses absolutely nothing but progressive media to push his agenda. Has a followers base of some very successful blacks. His approach is that of something like Farrakhan, but more of christain motivated undertone.

They openly preach that peaceful protest will not get results.

They are still stuck on 1960s mode.

You're correct I believe. But it's much larger than the black community. What we're seeing now is what you said accompanied with the progressive movement. The progressives see victory in pinning Americans against each other. In the occupy movement they attempted to pin poor vs rich. It didn't work. Now it's poor vs rich black vs white and urban community vs racist justice system.

[TheVrist]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

You're correct I believe. But it's much larger than the black community. What we're seeing now is what you said accompanied with the progressive movement. The progressives see victory in pinning Americans against each other. In the occupy movement they attempted to pin poor vs rich. It didn't work. Now it's poor vs rich black vs white and urban community vs racist justice system.

Well, hypothetically speaking, if that is true. Now is the best time.

They could back non-responsive Americans into a corner, using racial conflict to create a cold civil war, type of deal. The US, government would back the blacks, and the progressives whites, because the gist of the wars were over Black civil rights, and of course, its their obligation to protect those rights, even against other Americans.

This turning anyone, against the progressives whites, the blacks, and the government into "enemy of the states"

[niknik]

If it gets to where there's uncontrollable civil unrest all over America. I think that will cement Obama as the worst President of our time. He in at least some whites mind was supposed to help race relations. But instead his party, and his friends are attempting to tear America apart. They don't just want to win the next election, they want to destroy their opposition all together. So there is no other parties to run against, so there is no other party to oppose legislation, or to speak against it.

[TheVrist]

Walter E, Williams' Opinion on Blacks, and Progressives.

Sometimes I wonder when black people will reject the patronizing insults of white progressives and their black handmaidens. After CNN's Piers Morgan's interview with the key witness in the George Zimmerman trial, he said: "Rachel Jeantel is not uneducated. She's a smart cookie." That's a remarkable conclusion. Here's a 19-year-old young lady, still in high school, who cannot read cursive and appears to be barely literate. Morgan may have meant Jeantel is smart -- for a black person.

Progressives treat blacks as victims in need of kid glove treatment and special favors, such as racial quotas and preferences. This approach has been tried in education for decades and has revealed itself a failure. I say it's time we explore other approaches. One approach is suggested by sports. Blacks excel -- perhaps dominate is a better word -- in sports such as basketball, football and boxing to such an extent that blacks are 80 percent of professional basketball players, are 66 percent of professional football players and, for decades, have dominated most professional boxing categories.

These outcomes should raise several questions. In sports, when have you heard a coach explain or excuse a black player's poor performance by blaming it on a "legacy of slavery" or on that player's being raised in a single-parent household? When have you heard sports standards called racist or culturally biased? I have yet to hear a player, much less a coach, speak such nonsense. In fact, the standards of performance in sports are just about the most ruthless anywhere. Excuses are not tolerated. Think about it. What happens to a player, black or white, who doesn't come up to a college basketball or football coach's standards? He's off the team. Players know this, and they make every effort to excel. They do so even more if they have aspirations to be a professional player. By the way, blacks also excel in the entertainment industry -- another industry in which there's ruthless dog-eat-dog competition.

Seeing as blacks have demonstrated an ability to thrive in an environment of ruthless competition and demanding standards, there might be some gains from a similar school environment. Maybe we ought to have some schools in which youngsters are loaded up with homework, frequent tests and demanding, top-notch teachers. In such schools, there would be no excuses for anything. Youngsters cut the mustard, or they're kicked out and put into some other school. I'm betting that a significant number of black youngsters would prosper in such an environment, just as they prosper in the highly competitive sports and entertainment environments.

Progressives' agenda calls for not only excuse-making but also dependency. Nowhere is this more obvious than it is in their efforts to get as many Americans as they can to be dependent on food stamps; however, in this part of their agenda, they offer racial equal opportunity. During President Barack Obama's years in office, the number of people receiving food stamps has skyrocketed by 39 percent. Professor Edward Lazear, chairman of the president's Council of Economic Advisers from 2006-09, wrote in a Wall Street Journal article titled "The Hidden Jobless Disaster" (June 5, 2013) that research done by University of Chicago's Casey Mulligan suggests "that because government benefits are lost when income rises, some people forgo poor jobs in lieu of government benefits --unemployment insurance, food stamps and disability benefits among the most obvious." Government handouts probably go a long way toward explaining the unprecedented number of Americans, close to 90 million, who are no longer looking for work.

This is all a part of the progressive agenda to hook Americans, particularly black Americans, on government handouts. In future elections, they will be able to claim that anyone who campaigns on cutting taxing and spending is a racist. That's what Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., said in denouncing the Republican 1994 call for tax cuts. He said, "It's not 'spic' or 'n****r' anymore. (Instead,) they say, 'Let's cut taxes.'"

When black Americans finally recognize the harm of the progressive agenda, I'm betting they will be the nation's most conservative people, for who else has been harmed by progressivism as much?

[commondenom]

Originally Posted by TheVrist ↗

People are saying; "It was his fault for getting out of the vehicle"

yeah...but if he'd driven over them or through them to get away they'd be calling him a murdering racist...and probably a neo nazi as he comes from Bosnia

[commondenom]

90 million unemployed in America?? really?? that's fucking crazy!!

almost 30%!!

[TheVrist]

Originally Posted by commondenom ↗

90 million unemployed in America?? really?? that's fucking crazy!!

almost 30%!!

Yea. And in political debates, they try using the variable of smaller numerical percentage in increase/decrease rather than the BIG picture.

Saying unemployment has increased/decreased from or too by % is less scarier.

[niknik]

That take on sports competitiveness is a good one. It's true that the sports environment is not much different than the system many protesting blacks say is unfair to them. You're rewarded for working hard and producing, even your attitude and the way you carry yourself matters.

But blacks don't have a problem with the sports environment because they dominate the culture.

[commondenom]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

That take on sports competitiveness is a good one. It's true that the sports environment is not much different than the system many protesting blacks say is unfair to them. You're rewarded for working hard and producing, even your attitude and the way you carry yourself matters.

But blacks don't have a problem with the sports environment because they dominate the culture.

only in a few sports it seems.... in South Africa there are even quotas stating how many blacks must be in a professional rugby team but they just can't cut it...