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09-08-2025, 06:36 PM
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Re: Woman Who Fires First Gets Killed in Sacramento
Good points! Fully agree that he'll likely plead down, though I wish he could get a lawyer that actually knows firearms defensive encounters so it would give them a better defense. I think this would be easy to argue in self defense given the following, amateur analysis.
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09-08-2025, 07:46 PM
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Re: Woman Who Fires First Gets Killed in Sacramento
Apparently, while I was writing and getting timestamps, DR logged me out and only published a partial response so there went all that work. Long story short, given that she either initiated a gun fight or introduced a gun into the argument, fell to the ground (was out of sight), continued shooting while on the ground and out of sight, and he had to return to the vehicle to leave, him making the final shots were, in my opinion, reasonable. 0:22 shots start to be fired 0:23 she’s on the ground and still firing though you can argue these are reflexive/ due to bad trigger finger discipline. Guy in white is also moving away, naturally. 0:28 guy is white is off-screen and with her position and vehciles closest to her, likely cannot see what she’s doing at all. 0:32 she’s still shooting and either runs dry or has a malfunction. This is also around when she toss es the gun and guy in white begins to re-approach. 0:36 guy in white shoots again as he’s still headed to the vehicle with the driver’s side door open. Should he assume she’s not armed and won’t shoot him? I’d say he had zero reason to think that and given the other information, had not wayof seeing she’d tossed the gun. 0:41 guy in white is fully inside the vehicle So 20s from start of the shooting to the end with a fairly dynamic scene. Apparently, he had a GoFundMe Page which likely was removed as they didn’t allow such for legal defense, iirc. LE is often defended with the likes of “do you expect them to wait for the perp to throw the weapon away?” or “you can’t expect them to expect a person who was a demonstrable deadly threat to just stop being so on good faith?” The same applies to private citizens as well as far as self-defense response goes. Mission difference is separate but doesn’t’ apply here, except to say that the guy in white’s objective was to flee (vs. pursue and apprehend), which was by the vehicle that he returned to. I hate how LE gets such defense while we private citizens often aren’t. When I first read the description I thought of the stop shooting response but that also doesn't apply here. |