[Bish82]

No jumper there. Sad shit. RIP.

[TypeOnegative]

Originally Posted by cicueto ↗

I assume you mean submerging yourself in bathtub water and using the hose to breathe so you can remain underwater. I would think that the fire would destroy the hose but wouldn't it also make the water unbearably hot?

I don’t know honestly. I remember it from a training video a long time ago and can’t even pinpoint the circumstances of watching it. It just said run cold water in a bath and use the shower hose fed through the toilet to breathe fresh air once it rounds the bend in the bowl.

I would assume you enclose yourself in the bathroom while doing this and you’re just attempting to wait out the fire while it is being put out. My personal bathroom doesn’t contain flammable components, and I am making another assumption here that most bathrooms don’t. A closed door, also, is a very effective barrier against building fires. I worked side-by-side the military fire department as an AF Ammo troop in 2010 timeframe and do remember their live examples of how fires, even scorching ones, are blocked by shut doors. They had a shut doors campaign for keeping children safe at night, especially. That when there’s a house fire a child with an open door was far more likely to die than one that slept with the door shut, since the door blocked out the fire.

With that in mind, I’m wondering if in this woman’s specific situation had she ran to the bathroom instead of the window, and shut herself in if that hose trick would have been effective of if the fire here is just too hot.

In my previous line of work, though I worked by the fire department, our mentality was more that if we messed up then it would be a permanent end to our shift and cleanup would be someone else’s problem. Safety was more for surrounding areas and such. Quantitative Distance and how much of each explosive and what type was safe to be stored with what type. We didn’t exactly have a fire escape plan. At least none that I remember. I wasn’t the best troop to be candid.

[fapfapfap]

That sucked :(

[niknik]

Originally Posted by TypeOnegative ↗

I don’t know honestly. I remember it from a training video a long time ago and can’t even pinpoint the circumstances of watching it. It just said run cold water in a bath and use the shower hose fed through the toilet to breathe fresh air once it rounds the bend in the bowl.

I would assume you enclose yourself in the bathroom while doing this and you’re just attempting to wait out the fire while it is being put out. My personal bathroom doesn’t contain flammable components, and I am making another assumption here that most bathrooms don’t. A closed door, also, is a very effective barrier against building fires. I worked side-by-side the military fire department as an AF Ammo troop in 2010 timeframe and do remember their live examples of how fires, even scorching ones, are blocked by shut doors. They had a shut doors campaign for keeping children safe at night, especially. That when there’s a house fire a child with an open door was far more likely to die than one that slept with the door shut, since the door blocked out the fire.

With that in mind, I’m wondering if in this woman’s specific situation had she ran to the bathroom instead of the window, and shut herself in if that hose trick would have been effective of if the fire here is just too hot.

In my previous line of work, though I worked by the fire department, our mentality was more that if we messed up then it would be a permanent end to our shift and cleanup would be someone else’s problem. Safety was more for surrounding areas and such. Quantitative Distance and how much of each explosive and what type was safe to be stored with what type. We didn’t exactly have a fire escape plan. At least none that I remember. I wasn’t the best troop to be candid.

I suppose that could work. Although fresh air I doubt, the air in your sewer line could be full of methane gas and other poisonous gas. The curve in the toilets purpose is to use the water as a barrier to stop those gases from coming into your home.

So I don't know how long you could actually do that. Maybe a minute or two, you would probably be sick but better than dead. But longer than a 5 minutes I doubt is possible.

But if you're going to gather a hose to keep in your bathroom for such emergency. You could create some kind of filter possibly.

Or maybe I'm missing something. I'm no plumber.

[goober]

Very sad. There was no way out of that situation. She was so covered in soot that her clothes left a mark on the wall. It reminds me of what the 9/11 victims in the towers probably experienced with heat and smoke pushing them toward the windows and eventually out. So tragic.

[minka1]

Originally Posted by Tyrantus ↗

On the first playthrough I didnt notice she totally panics and screams when she gets surrounded by the smoke. Looks like shes trying to wave it away from her face, that shit was probably quite hot... the video definetly hits different after noticing that.

Not just hot, but that smoke burns your eyes, your throat, your nostrils.
I fucked up a recipe once and boiled oil. The house began to fill with black smoke and it was burning my eyes, my throat was burning, it was so peppery is how I’d explain it.
That was just a tiny taste of what people go they when trapped like she was.
Horrific. The cities make these mega floors of housing and don’t take into consideration how would people trapped could be saved.
Unbelievable how expendable people are.

[River]

Originally Posted by pokerplay ↗

It almost looked like she could have made it to the lower window. Especially if someone had opened it but just lower herself down then drop the legs, try something, anything other than jumping.

Well, she didn't. She slipped or lost balance when trying to adjust her position on the ledge.

[samipiggy]

that's so sad..

[cicueto]

Originally Posted by TypeOnegative ↗

I don’t know honestly. I remember it from a training video a long time ago and can’t even pinpoint the circumstances of watching it. It just said run cold water in a bath and use the shower hose fed through the toilet to breathe fresh air once it rounds the bend in the bowl.

I would assume you enclose yourself in the bathroom while doing this and you’re just attempting to wait out the fire while it is being put out. My personal bathroom doesn’t contain flammable components, and I am making another assumption here that most bathrooms don’t. A closed door, also, is a very effective barrier against building fires. I worked side-by-side the military fire department as an AF Ammo troop in 2010 timeframe and do remember their live examples of how fires, even scorching ones, are blocked by shut doors. They had a shut doors campaign for keeping children safe at night, especially. That when there’s a house fire a child with an open door was far more likely to die than one that slept with the door shut, since the door blocked out the fire.

With that in mind, I’m wondering if in this woman’s specific situation had she ran to the bathroom instead of the window, and shut herself in if that hose trick would have been effective of if the fire here is just too hot.

In my previous line of work, though I worked by the fire department, our mentality was more that if we messed up then it would be a permanent end to our shift and cleanup would be someone else’s problem. Safety was more for surrounding areas and such. Quantitative Distance and how much of each explosive and what type was safe to be stored with what type. We didn’t exactly have a fire escape plan. At least none that I remember. I wasn’t the best troop to be candid.

I have no idea if a closed door would help or not but even if it stopped the fire from engulfing the bathroom, would she have a hard time breathing?

Someone else suggested that if you live in such an apartment without any fire escape that you should at least have some sort of rope; rock climbing equipment not to reach ground but to at least attempt to go down a story or two and seek refuge there.

[K53]

Sad she had no constructive options other than burn to death.