[kasapin]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

Yeah I never said it was fake. Nor do I necessarily believe it is fake. I only indicated that certain aspects of it were largely inconsistent with any of the dozens of beheading videos we've seen before. So I have some doubts and want more source detail, that's all. No need for anyone to get their nose out of joint and start trolling the fucking thread. Assuming that I am, in fact, the original 'monkey' to which you refer.

Chill. It may well be real but has various issues of contention. The purpose of a discussion forum is to discuss the actual material being posted. Not to simply insult anyone whose take on the material disagrees with yours.

that is why u go "thank" each morron who thinks this is fake. Man some of the most retarded shit I ever seen said on this site.. (besides the obvious trolls) comes from you.
And since you are not shy from spilling your brain farts here ...i won't shy from calling you an occasional descriptive idiom of my choice.

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by kasapin ↗

that is why u go "thank" each morron who thinks this is fake.

No. Just the few who provided a cogent rationale for their thoughts. Thanked the ones that provided a reasonable explanation for the opposing view as well. I appreciate critical thought, whether it matches my viewpoints or not.

You, on the other hand, are just a trolling asshole with nearly-unreadable punctuation and an inability to even utilize the site's simple spellcheck when you spew invective into a thread. I'm sorry, but you don't get to call people out for saying 'retarded shit' when you communicate like a third-grader. Not on my fucking watch.

Now, as I said originally, stop disrupting the thread.

[SimoneFlen']

Originally Posted by kasapin ↗

that is why u go "thank" each morron who thinks this is fake. Man some of the most retarded shit I ever seen said on this site.. (besides the obvious trolls) comes from you.
And since you are not shy from spilling your brain farts here ...i won't shy from calling you an occasional descriptive idiom of my choice.

Seems that we can only have an opinion if it matches yours. This looks fake + Ved' put the reasons across as to why very well.

[Oscar99]

Somehow That white top stayed immaculate for what should have been such a messy operation

[feb1199]

I don’t think it’s fake at all. Just a dull and clumsy knife.
Also the rookie narco had no idea what he was doing, either that or felt bad killing the girl and wasn’t at his best... why she was screaming til the end ?? The knife wasn’t slicing, simple as that ! And the dude was covering her face to somewhat muffle the loud screaming...Why there was hardly any blood ? Again, the knife wasn’t cutting !! when she gets stabbed in the belly, u can actually see the knife bending, as it barely penetrates her not necessarily “killer abs” meaning under her thick skin there’s layers of body-fat. You do see some blood coming out on the one stab that actually penetrated... and lastly, she didn’t get the shivers because there was simply not enough blood-loss for her body to do that.I think she was still alive, but the video was cut short, not to mention her arms were tied from behind, and her back is resting on top of them the whole time, And that’s painful as it is, u see her hands grasping dirt as in a state of panic or trying to free herself and then some moron is also adding his weight on top, come on !! yet some people say it’s fake, okay

[spyderguard]

Originally Posted by kasapin ↗

that is why u go "thank" each morron who thinks this is fake.

Look more carefully, and you'll notice that Vedderman also thanked people that stated reasons why they believe it's real...

[cardsharksam]

fake or not I don't know she's either a great actress or a dead beauty

[zuiram]

The cadence (is that the right word in English?) is better than I’d expect in a fake. But that’s hard to judge in a foreign (to me) language. As for the action, my impression is that these are two novices who really can’t handle her reaction and are trying to stop the sounds, but it could be a fake that isn’t trying to emulate what we normally see. The knife is clean for most of the video. Not so at the end, but that doesn’t really say much. The ice pick improv take on things at the end doesn’t spell fake to me, but there’s obviously no element of evidene in that, just that it rhymes better with that whole “damn, killing this poor girl is harder than we thought, but we’ve come this far and can’t stop now”-interpretation than with the “you know, what this fake really needs is for us to place the fake but metallic object against the actress’ throat and slam it hard with a rock so we can be the first to ever do *that* in a beheading vid”-interpretation.

Could be fake. Could be two regular guys and a cameraperson who thought it all out on paper with no applicable experience and really bungled the job, went off script and tried to “fix” whatever they had thought to accomplish with the brute force hacking move. Could even be a fake gone wrong. I note piercing the windpipe does stop the sound, which seems to be a priority, which seems like an odd priority for a fake when she’s doing such a good job with it.

Would be really nice to have some background on this.

[zuiram]

Originally Posted by acrux ↗

That is pure evil
Either that or pure amateurs
Very tough to watch

Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

[FrankRagsdale]

does she pee her pants?