[Juujigun]

Originally Posted by miscreant ↗

I actually agree with a lot of what you said! Regarding bias in Snopes etc, absolutely, everyone has bias whether they like it or not. I happen to believe self-awareness of that goes a long way but can’t erase it entirely. There’s nobody in the world who is completely impartial. All must be taken with a grain of salt but at the same time don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

To the point quoted above… I think you are right. It’s a response to behavior patterns. A good question then is why those patterns are so ingrained in Black culture. I don’t want to make excuses for the behaviors you cited, but it does seem that there are structural societal issues that feed into this which, if addressed, might bring the proportion (on a percentage basis) of black folks shot by cops to parity with white people.

I'd say they need to drain the bathwater and get a new baby. With regard to Facebook and Twitter in particular, and I assume Snopes and others, a great deal of the employees and "fact checkers" actually worked in the Obama administration and came over into the private sector in 2015 and 2016. They have no interest in diverse opinions. This is why some many Twitter employees are freaking out about Musk potentially taking over. You have thousands of people who believe their facts are truth and contrary facts are disinformation. This post-truth society they are trying to build has no interest in objective truth. Truth, to them, is subjective. They want to be the final authority on what is truth and what is a lie.

As for the second point...I'll just point it out again...blacks don't need to be in parity with whites. It's about coming into parity with everyone who is not black. They need to modify their behavior to be more in line with the other 87% of the population. I get it...their history is different than the other 87%, but this is 2022, not 1922 or 1822 or even 1962. If you keep living in the present with one foot in the past, nothing is ever going to advance forward.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by Juujigun ↗

I'd say they need to drain the bathwater and get a new baby. With regard to Facebook and Twitter in particular, and I assume Snopes and others, a great deal of the employees and "fact checkers" actually worked in the Obama administration and came over into the private sector in 2015 and 2016. They have no interest in diverse opinions. This is why some many Twitter employees are freaking out about Musk potentially taking over. You have thousands of people who believe their facts are truth and contrary facts are disinformation. This post-truth society they are trying to build has no interest in objective truth. Truth, to them, is subjective. They want to be the final authority on what is truth and what is a lie.

As for the second point...I'll just point it out again...blacks don't need to be in parity with whites. It's about coming into parity with everyone who is not black. They need to modify their behavior to be more in line with the other 87% of the population. I get it...their history is different than the other 87%, but this is 2022, not 1922 or 1822 or even 1962. If you keep living in the present with one foot in the past, nothing is ever going to advance forward.

Stop living in poor areas with no job opportunities and bad schools?

[Faust]

It is not their fault if they are often born into wrong neighbourhoods.

People of Color can be Neil degrasse Tyson or Obama or anybody basically if they are from normal areas. The fact that I have to mention this is racist in itself almost so apologies lol

[M.F.D.B.]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

It is not their fault if they are often born into wrong neighbourhoods.

People of Color can be Neil degrasse Tyson or Obama or anybody basically if they are from normal areas. The fact that I have to mention this is racist in itself almost so apologies lol

My whole family grew up in poverty, and none of us are killers, rapist or burglars. Quit making excuses and make changes instead...

[atheist-guy]

Deserved

[WhiskeyOutpost]

I don't care what color the guy is, he pulled a gun. You're going to die.

[Juujigun]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Stop living in poor areas with no job opportunities and bad schools?

So you think black people are the only ones living in poor areas? They are the only ones who can't seem to overcome obstacles every other single ethnic and racial group deals with. Even Africans who are actually born in Africa are more educated, wealthier, and do better in every meaningful statistical measure of success and upward mobility than black born in America. Why is that? How is that possible?

It's the soft racism of low expectations. Instead of expecting and demanding that black Americans meet the necessary standards of excellence and achievement, we lower the bar. Instead of doing whatever is necessary to lift them up to meet the other 87%, we institute policies and standards to bring everybody else down to the 13%.

Asking someone to speak proper English...dress codes that ask that you not have your pants down around your ankles...actually assigning grades and having a valedictorian and salutatorian at a school...identifying and cultivating academic excellence...math...spelling...punctuality...laws that everyone must obey even if it means some groups are disproportionately affected...viewing criminals more favorably than police...the notion that having children out of wedlock is generally a bad idea...not having additional children when you have to depend on the government to support the ones you already have...self-reliance...are all standards of a successful society that we exempt black Americans from because they are "tools of white supremacy and institutional racism."

It's not the jobs and it's not the schools. It's the people in them and the families they come from. Until we bring them up towards the top, instead of meeting them down at the bottom, nothing's gonna change.

[jintsy]

"Despite the fact that he pulled a gun on a police officer, Paige said he wasn't aggressive." That sentence deserves some kind award such as "Most Leftest Leftist Bent On the Facts Award"

[Hunter1031]

Originally Posted by OhJstFkOffAlrdy ↗

Excellent shooting by the po-po. The driver's friend sounds like a total moron. "Pulled a gun, but wasn't aggressive." Right.



Dude is very clearly white, or at the very least not dark-skinned enough to fail the Quahog PD palette test.

Definitely not white. Just sayin

[Lugia]

Originally Posted by jintsy ↗

"Despite the fact that he pulled a gun on a police officer, Paige said he wasn't aggressive." That sentence deserves some kind award such as "Most Leftest Leftist Bent On the Facts Award"

Can you say that again, but make it make sense? Because your sentence deserves zero awards.