[zerono]

I lived in Donetsk before 2014, just to make it clear these shootings (this one and second on the Bakinskih, day before) was done by local separatists (=russia) to prepare publicity for "referendums" and annexation these territories by Russia. Just notice, all the militaries are here just after 2 minutes after shelling, in REAL ukraine shelling nobody came even after HOURS!! Also there's a lot of evidences, that shelling was done from occupied territories.

For your information between 2018 and february 2022 number of civilians killed by ukrainian shellings in donetsk/lugansk occupied teerritories was...... 0! This info is from OSCE and is accepted by russians (all civilians ~8 who was killed by mines or brought to home ammo or explosives from the former battlefiled etc...)

So - this is bullshit from Russian Propahanda, be careful, I am russian speaking ukriainian, but Russian Federation is killer and Putin is fucking bastard and huylo. Slava Ukraine

[duntez]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Just to clarify this situation a bit... this location has been under DPR (Donetsk People's Republic) pro-Russian control since about 2014 and is a territory currently occupied by Russian forces backing the DPR separatists controlling the area. It's highly likely that Ukraine was targeting a military target in the area when this happened.

Russia has been doing it for 7 months all over Ukraine. The difference here is Ukraine is defending their territory from another country trying to take what is not theirs.

There is another video of bodies (over 400 people) that have been exhumed from mass graves in Izium, Ukraine after the UAF liberated the city from Russian occupation about a week ago. At least 30 of those bodies showed signs of torture and all of them signs of a violent death, according to reports.

Either way and regardless of who's "side" you're on, it sucks to see innocent people killed no matter who is pushing the button or pulling the trigger.

Just to clarify this situation a bit. Ukr government illegally took power in 2014 by overthrowing legitimate president. Donbas and Krimea didn't like the way it went down and stood up against it and for that new Ukr officials started anti-terrorist operation in Donbas calling local Ukrainians terrorists and separatists. All 8 years people of Donbas were under Ukr shelling. New Ukr so-called government was playing dirty games by claiming Russia was the one doing it. The fact is people of Donbas know who's been killing their kids ( roughly around 100 now), women and men for almost 9 years now and Ukrainian in this video proves who's the real enemy here by saying " Jesus Lord so many young girls dead...Russia please help us! Help!..."

In Izum, after heavy fights for almost a month RF forces took city. Instead of letting bodies MOSTLY of the soldier rod outside on the streets they buried them. Installed a cross on a top of every grave with the info they could find..name, rank, etc. During this funerals captured Ukr soldiers volunteered to help bury their fallen brothers in arms ( there is a video somewhere in Ukr/Rus war section) So this is another Ukr fake news about Rus army atrocities in order to bring western society attention and more guns along the way.

WonderMomma Didn't know you were doing propaganda in a different video sections

[adder]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Just to clarify this situation a bit... this location has been under DPR (Donetsk People's Republic) pro-Russian control since about 2014 and is a territory currently occupied by Russian forces backing the DPR separatists controlling the area. It's highly likely that Ukraine was targeting a military target in the area when this happened.

Russia has been doing it for 7 months all over Ukraine. The difference here is Ukraine is defending their territory from another country trying to take what is not theirs.

There is another video of bodies (over 400 people) that have been exhumed from mass graves in Izium, Ukraine after the UAF liberated the city from Russian occupation about a week ago. At least 30 of those bodies showed signs of torture and all of them signs of a violent death, according to reports.

Either way and regardless of who's "side" you're on, it sucks to see innocent people killed no matter who is pushing the button or pulling the trigger.

Ukraine military killing citizens, lucky they didn't fire 2nd and 3rd rounds trying to kill emergency workers, that's what they do

[Faust]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Just to clarify this situation a bit. Ukr government illegally took power in 2014 by overthrowing legitimate president. Donbas and Krimea didn't like the way it went down and stood up against it and for that new Ukr officials started anti-terrorist operation in Donbas calling local Ukrainians terrorists and separatists. All 8 years people of Donbas were under Ukr shelling. New Ukr so-called government was playing dirty games by claiming Russia was the one doing it. The fact is people of Donbas know who's been killing their kids ( roughly around 100 now), women and men for almost 9 years now and Ukrainian in this video proves who's the real enemy here by saying " Jesus Lord so many young girls dead...Russia please help us! Help!..."

In Izum, after heavy fights for almost a month RF forces took city. Instead of letting bodies MOSTLY of the soldier rod outside on the streets they buried them. Installed a cross on a top of every grave with the info they could find..name, rank, etc. During this funerals captured Ukr soldiers volunteered to help bury their fallen brothers in arms ( there is a video somewhere in Ukr/Rus war section) So this is another Ukr fake news about Rus army atrocities in order to bring western society attention and more guns along the way.

WonderMomma Didn't know you were doing propaganda in a different video sections

Probably better than welfare?

[wynncraft]

war is hell, may god rest their souls

[zerono]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Just to clarify this situation a bit. Ukr government illegally took power in 2014 by overthrowing legitimate president. Donbas and Krimea didn't like the way it went down and stood up against it and for that new Ukr officials started anti-terrorist operation in Donbas calling local Ukrainians terrorists and separatists. All 8 years people of Donbas were under Ukr shelling. New Ukr so-called government was playing dirty games by claiming Russia was the one doing it. The fact is people of Donbas know who's been killing their kids ( roughly around 100 now), women and men for almost 9 years now and Ukrainian in this video proves who's the real enemy here by saying " Jesus Lord so many young girls dead...Russia please help us! Help!..."

In Izum, after heavy fights for almost a month RF forces took city. Instead of letting bodies MOSTLY of the soldier rod outside on the streets they buried them. Installed a cross on a top of every grave with the info they could find..name, rank, etc. During this funerals captured Ukr soldiers volunteered to help bury their fallen brothers in arms ( there is a video somewhere in Ukr/Rus war section) So this is another Ukr fake news about Rus army atrocities in order to bring western society attention and more guns along the way.

WonderMomma Didn't know you were doing propaganda in a different video sections

Pure bullshit.
This is payed kremlin internet troll named "kremlebot".
Be careful.

[GONZALEZ575]

Strange cloud in the sky, 38 seconds left in the video...

[duntez]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Probably better than welfare?

Not sure what r u referring to

[omgwee]

ukranians been fucking with god since the taliban .... they deserve every second of the death they get . Women fighting squads for Afgan to not go to heaven, Pig skin for east indian to not go to heaven. I find it funny how every thing they do has to do with east indians from the beginning

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by Sibella ↗

This is a lie.

Ukraine has been bombing this region for 8 years now and blaming Russia.

The Donbas is in Ukraine. Ukraine. Ukraine. Ukraine.

Russia and Russian separatists are trying to TAKE the region FROM Ukraine. Some in the region want to be ruled by Russia, some in the region want rule themselves but not be a part of Russia, and some do not want either. Regardless... The Donbas, Crimea, Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, Odesa... all are in the country of Ukraine.

I respect your right as a human being to have your opinions but this point has been debated in the threads in the war section extensively and will never be agreed upon by everyone. I understand you don't agree, and respect that, but that doesn't change the fact these areas are a part of Ukraine and should remain so unless Ukraine decides to relinquish them willingly. Otherwise they fight to defend it.