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12-04-2013, 06:19 PM
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Re: Toronto Police Shooting Of Mentally Ill Man Released
The "Shoot to wound" folks are well-intentioned but are mistaken. That stuff works in the movies but not in real life. Most cops are not that good of a shot anyway so they shoot at the large target (upper torso) instead of the small ones (sholder, knee, etc.). That being said, the shooter was clearly wrong IMO. You have 10+ cops vs. a naked dude with a pair of scissors and your only solution is to shoot and kill him? It might be more excusable if the victim was 6'9" tall and 350 pounds of solid muscle but that clearly was not the case here. Either the cop(s) were scared shitless because they had never been in a situation like this or else they were never trained in hand-to-hand combat. Since it is Christmas-time, you ever see one of those huge candy-cane sticks? They're about a foot long or so and an inch or so wide. They can be chewed or sucked on until the tip is a very sharp point--like a minny sword--Equally as "lethal" with a sharp stab to the chest as a pair of scissors would be. So are cops going to shoot someone "brandishing" a candy cane next? With all the time the cops had within 20 feet of this guy, there were all kinds of non-lethal weapons possibilities here: bean-bag shotguns, rubber bullets, pepper spray, tasers, the list goes on. Either these cops did not have any of those or else they all got "tall-man syndrome" where they just immediately go for the gun and the lethal option instead. Again, understandable if the victim's size calls for it or if the cop is all alone. But this again was clearly not the case. Hopefully this victim had a family that can sue the PD and the city and hopefully some harsh consequences (even some jail time) will be bestowed upon the "kill first, ask questions later" cop in this case. Sorry for the long post but this video and some of the comments really pissed me off. Carry on. |
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12-13-2013, 11:12 PM
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 My Rank: SERGEANT Poster Rank:1039 Female Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 656 Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Quoted: 36 Post(s)
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Re: Toronto Police Shooting Of Mentally Ill Man Released
Obviously, the man was ill as he had run away from the hospital in only his gown. Even if the police were not aware of his situation they could see that at least. A shot to disable seems more rational and would end the threat. I live with mental illness and I would hate to have a problem with my meds and walk outside only to have police kill me. Similar to the Kelly Thomas case although the Thomas case was much more brutal.
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