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05-28-2020, 01:18 PM
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| ♚ Legacy Gold Member ♚ Poster Rank:99 Male Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 16,606 Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Quoted: 4579 Post(s)
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Re: Police Shooting, Seattle.
Cops don't train on "shoot to wound". There is no such thing.
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#13
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05-28-2020, 05:35 PM
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| My Rank: CORPORAL Poster Rank:1491 Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 383 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Quoted: 113 Post(s)
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Re: Police Shooting, Seattle.
I wish Taser would paint the ends of the probes neon yellow so you can see in the video where they hit. I don't think both probes struck him. He only appears to be reacting to possibly being struck by one. The officer had sufficient distance to achieve good probe separation, so if both would have hit, he would have stiffened up and fallen over. That said... they managed to avoid shooting each other, in spite of themselves. I don't know what the game plan was but it isn't optimal to surround the suspect from all sides because of exactly what happened here. Had any of them started jerking the trigger before they were on target or missed him, they could have struck each other. I also wish there was more to the story. This had to have been going on for a little while to get that many officers, including the dog man, there at one time. No way I would release the dog if it was known he had that butcher knife. Dog man does great jerking the leash before the trigger to keep the dog from getting shot. Extra points go to the TASER officer, who looks to be damn near seven feet tall, for doing the tactical squish down run like he is jumping off a Blackhawk and trying to not lose his lid to the rotor. Shrank his profile to six feet, eleven and a half inches. I know these are random events and they come in threes... but we really didn't need to have another black guy getting killed by white cops right now. Not saying, nor do I believe, that race played anything into this. The suspect was the incident commander on this and pretty much chose how it was going to end. Just bad optics. |
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#14
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05-28-2020, 06:28 PM
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Re: Police Shooting, Seattle.
Here’s some simple reasoning: if the perpetrator had obeyed commands, instead of brandishing a knife, would he still be in this world right now? Though a police officer fired his weapon, the perpetrator drew fire upon himself ultimately!
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05-28-2020, 09:50 PM
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Re: Police Shooting, Seattle.
So shooting to wound is dangerous in of itself. Where would you shoot? The arm? The leg? Those are smaller targets than center mass (chest). You are also responsible for your bullet no matter what. I carry a Glock 31 (.45). If I pull my weapon to shoot: A. When I pull the trigger, I have already reconciled to the fact that the person in front of me is dead. B. I need the bullet to STOP and not go through an arm or leg and hit someone else. C. I need to stop the threat in front of me Last (Lucky for the person I just shot): I try to perform life saving measures, if safely possible to do so. Arms, legs, head are small targets and may not completely stop your bullet, putting innocent bystanders in jeopardy. |
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05-29-2020, 12:15 AM
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| My Rank: LANCE CORPORAL Poster Rank:2634 Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 160 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Quoted: 49 Post(s)
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Re: Police Shooting, Seattle.
Easily said than done. I am a former PO. In situations like that your adrenaline is through the roof which leads to tunnel vision, you are in fear of injury or death and you have only a split second o make that decision or your dead. I once had a somewhat overweight female threatening people with a box cutter. Tasers were not being used yet. She started threatening me and was walking slowly toward me. I did not want to shoot her so I tried staying back and trying to talk her down. I figured if she did charge me I would be quicker but I was wrong. She was on me before I could say Rumple Stiltskin. She slice me up with that boxcutter costing me 400 stitches. I was a rookie then and I basically froze when it came to pulling the trigger and it cost me. I learned later she was high on meth. Don't under estimate what people are capable of doing especially if they are drugged out.
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05-29-2020, 03:47 AM
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Re: Police Shooting, Seattle.
Naw, police only perform that tactic when the suspect is not a direct threat, complying with officer's commands, saying he can't breathe, asking for water, and calling out for his mama. All the while the officer's are yelling, "stop resisting, stop resisting" when camera videos record him not resisting. There, I said it. I feel much calmer now. |