[rvonburger]

I love how most "People" on here have already choose sides on who is to blame for the atrocities in the situation by only listening to a media run by corporate 2 faced backstabing crooks and looking at photos of dead people and feeling bad while at the same time conducting absolutely no personal research on your own and putting 2 and 2 together! Its things such as this that would lead me to believe there is no Faith in Humanity. Use your god damn heads to look into the truth people, im sure most are scared of it but it feels great to know!

[Gertcha!]

Originally Posted by koolio ↗

i suspect it to be a fabricated story.

I wish your existence was a fabricated story.

[Gertcha!]

Originally Posted by rvonburger ↗

I love how most "People" on here have already choose sides on who is to blame for the atrocities in the situation by only listening to a media run by corporate 2 faced backstabing crooks and looking at photos of dead people and feeling bad while at the same time conducting absolutely no personal research on your own and putting 2 and 2 together! Its things such as this that would lead me to believe there is no Faith in Humanity. Use your god damn heads to look into the truth people, im sure most are scared of it but it feels great to know!

Please, do elaborate, although I have the feeling it'd be pointless.

People are sickened that this plane was shot down, and not as much concerned about who was behind the atrocity. 'scared' of what? That it was either Russia or the Ukraine who shot it down? Who else would? Why would they? What, is this real plan to invade Russia? You're all fart and no shit, but that's probably just as well, because you stink bad enough.

[Johnny Wadd]

New MH 17 Sensation: German experts point finger at Ukrainian air-force jets

This is what a German pilot-cum-air technology expert Peter Haisenko has just published on the subject of the MH17 disaster (my emphases):

‘The misfortune of the Malaysian MH 017 is known to all. The flight
recorder is in England and is being evaluated. What can come of this?
May be more than you want to accept….if you look at the image of
Cockpit-Fragments, this picture is certainly shocking.
Entry And Exit holes from bullets in the area of the Cockpit. This is not speculation, but analysis of clear facts: the cockpit
shows clear evidence of bullet holes. You can see the entry holes and
some exit points. The edges of the bullet holes are bent inwards,
these are much smaller and round in shape. A 30mm calibre. The exit
holes are less well formed and the edges are torn outwards.
Furthermore it is visible that the exit holes have torn the double
aluminium skin and bent them outwards. That is to say, splinters from
inside the cockpit blew through the outside of the cabin. The open
rivets have also been bent outwards….There is only one conclusion one can make, and that is that this: the
aircraft was not hit by a missile. The damage to the aircraft is
exclusively in the cockpit area….

Armour-Piercing Ammunition. Russia has published radar data that a
Ukranian SU 25 was close to MH 017. this corresponds with Spanish air
traffic control that two Ukranian fighter aircraft were in direct
contact with MH 017. Examine the weaponry of the SU 25: it is fitted
out with a 30mm cannon Type GSch-302 /AO-17A, with 250 rounds of
splintering exploding bullets on a belt – shrapnel rounds. The cockpit
of MH 017 was hit from TWO sides, as there are entry and exit holes on
the same side….’
Very compelling stuff, is it not?

Now read this (also German) article by defence expert Bernd Biederman, who offers equally sound reasons why the
shooting down could NOT have been from a surface to air missile:

‘ the shooting down of the Malaysian
Boeing on July 17 in the Eastern Ukraine “could not have been hit by a
surface to air defense missile” .

This is the assessment of retired Colonel Bernd Biedermann in an
article for the daily newspaper published in Berlin “new Germany”
(Thursday edition). Had splinters from a surface to air missile hit
the plane, it would have immediately caught fire, argues the NVA
anti-aircraft missile specialist. His reasoning is because of the
“enormous frictional heat that the splinters generate on penetrating
the fuselage. A single splinter contains the same kinetic energy as a
40-ton freight car hitting the buffers at 60 kilometers per hour.” In
the case of the Malaysian Boeing, scattered fires had broken out after
the impact with the ground, because hot debris from the aircraft had
come in contact with combustible materials.

Biedermann is familiar with Soviet and Russian air defense technology,
he led units in the duty officer system in East Germany and taught at
the Military Academy in the field of anti-aircraft missile troops.’

Articles are beginning to appear across the Web to the effect that Angela Merkel is disturbed by (and growing tired of) the incessant US propaganda being emitted in favour of its energy agenda….and so we must perhaps in turn view these articles in the light of her alleged new agenda concerning the creation of an alternative bloc to that of America. (More on this here in the near future).

But spin or not, these analyses make sense. The US State Dept has now shifted its position from ‘Russian atrocity’ to ‘tragic accident’. The above opinions suggest that neither are true: they suggest strongly that the Ukrainian air force took out MH17.


Just what I found looking at "other" theory's into this terrible event

[LeadHead]

Dude in the second video just chilling out rebuilding his car with jet parts I guess.

[Billthegravedigger]

Can you imagine flying along minding your own fucking business, when all of a sudden.......you KNOW you are going to die

[nzcelt]

Originally Posted by fapfapfap ↗

Reporting what state officials in various countries say does not constitute "the media... having a culprit".

So what about JFK numerous eye witnesses had different accounts of the event and the media straight away had a culprit.
A lot of topics the media covers does not even need to be debunked as the politicians contradict themselves like the American idiot George Bush.

[lvs33]

Shoot down commercial airline is fucking looser

[kineticx]

How is it that most everyone seems to get stripped naked in a plane crash? Does the wind as they plummet out of the disintegrating plane tear off all their clothes? If so, how come I didn't lose all my gear when I'm skydiving? A mystery!

[etown780]

Originally Posted by Billthegravedigger ↗

Can you imagine flying along minding your own fucking business, when all of a sudden.......you KNOW you are going to die

I'm pretty sure it was a instant death for all...35,000 feet...missile...no chance ..shitty way to go out..