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Originally Posted by nzcelt ↗

It's always suss when an event happens and the media straight away have a culprit. Malaysia airlines straight away could see that this would be used as a political football to further US, or Russian agenda's. There needs to be a full independent enquiry.

Reporting what state officials in various countries say does not constitute "the media... having a culprit".

[Bletch]

You can hear laughing at the last video, what's so funny ?! Seeing all dead people? like "wow! look what happened to your battleground comrade" "look at that half-westener there!"
Appreciate if someone could translate what they are saying.

[ajgeastwood]

Originally Posted by bileboy ↗

Happily, probably not. Explosive decompression at 33,000ft means instant death. Even the deceleration alone would be enough to kill you (600mph laterally depends on the aircraft being intact - the instant it's not it decelerates violently).

And even then, hypoxia would set in very quickly, not to mention the extreme cold at altitude.

I'm confident in saying 99 per cent of them died instantly, and the few people (probably the pilots) alive in the seconds after impact would have had just long enough to figure out what happened before hypoxia set in. Nobody experienced the fall to earth.

Can't say I agree Tbh, looking at the initial crash footage (large black plume then fire + small debris trails) it would appear the aircraft was largely intact on impact. Most likely winged or holed by missile (not the instant impact-boom-fireball you see in movies) then descent and terrain impact. Yes, lots probably unconscious due to hypoxia but quite sure enough would have retained some awareness. The dismembered remains appear to be some distance from main crash site, suggesting these were caught in initial blast / break up. The majority of relatively intact bodies surround large debris field appear to have sustained injuries consistent with impact trauma.

[bileboy]

Originally Posted by ajgeastwood ↗

Can't say I agree Tbh, looking at the initial crash footage (large black plume then fire + small debris trails) it would appear the aircraft was largely intact on impact. Most likely winged or holed by missile (not the instant impact-boom-fireball you see in movies) then descent and terrain impact. Yes, lots probably unconscious due to hypoxia but quite sure enough would have retained some awareness. The dismembered remains appear to be some distance from main crash site, suggesting these were caught in initial blast / break up. The majority of relatively intact bodies surround large debris field appear to have sustained injuries consistent with impact trauma.

I agree the aircraft was not completely destroyed in mid-air. The Buk destroys the target via proximity detonation and shrapnel damage - they're mostly used for engaging small supersonic targets so this route makes a lot of sense.

All your observations are fair... I just personally think instantly decompressing like that would more or less tear your lungs out of your throat and the radical deceleration is also a bit factor. More sharp-eyed DR members have pointed out many bodies (RIP) are missing eyeballs, although impacting the ground at terminal velocity might get that done too.

[xpsyko]

nothing but a largescale conspiracy. this world is fcuked up.

[b0g]

a heat seeker will destroy a hot turbine, so the cabin might be pretty unharmed.
And lots of folks climb Mt Everest and survive.
I guess most of these folks were alive the whole way down.

Makes me think of the Columbia

[Grantham]

Originally Posted by CuriousCanadian ↗

Funny how there is a million little pieces eveywhere, unlike Shanksville and the Pentagon

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Blizzard012]

This one is sort of surreal with the lighting..

[nyazzip]

somewhere out there has to be the footage of the missile actually bringing down the plane; i'd love to see that

[nyazzip]

Explosive decompression at 33,000ft means instant death.

wrong. it isn't generally healthy, but it isn't"instant death" either. google Aloha Airlines when a huge portion of the fuselage blew out and sucked a few people out with it. the aircraft landed and almost everyone lived.