[codreapers86]

Originally Posted by giovanni0359 ↗

Ok all you sticking up for the pigs on this one. What if I was at my mothers home preparing dinner and me and my mother have an argument. She calls the cops ( some idiots call the cops for nothing but an argument ) and let`s say I was cutting up onions when the cops arrive and unwittingly had a knife in my hand and I walk over to the door and the cop tells me to drop the knife ( I look at my hand and oops, I see the knife ) then the next fucking second the pigs shoot me dead. Justified ??? NO !!!!!!!! Trigger happy fools with the IQ of a pig. Oh, maybe I should have put on blackface, then it`s justified to the racists on here.

Shouldnt have mouthed off to mom bro.

[Qberth]

In a situation like that they must take some action and fast but I don't think that guns should be the first weapon to use.

[LERK]

If angry looking Martin Lawrence guy lunged at me with a screwdrive, I would've shot him too. It's hard to make out if he actually lunged at them though.

[LucasCarr]

Fair enough the dude was holding a knife, and he did make a forward movement towards police. as for the mental illness aspect this works both ways, sure he become a danger, but was he aware of what he was doing? My problem is the police are way too quick to just shoot, neither officer attempted to move to a safer position, just draw and bang.

[U.B.Hotch]

Originally Posted by SkepticAll ↗

I remember my first encounter with a bipolar and schizophrenic patient. Much like this case, we were called to the house by his mother who claimed that he had been up all night 'fussing' and tossing things around the house. Looking in the dining room, we noticed all the chairs had been knocked over and the recliner in the den was upside down.

While talking to Mom, old 'Junior' (his nickname) came out of his room and walked right past us like we weren't there. He went out the front door and walked up to my locked vehicle parked at the curb and peered into the windows on both sides. I wonder now if he was hoping I had my patrol shotgun mounted between the seats. Anyway, Junior comes back in the house and again says not a word to me or my partner and walks back to his room.

I explained to his mother that she needs to get him back on his meds which he had quit taking about two days hence and prior to leaving, we checked to make sure she was comfortable with him in the house by herself. She assured us she'd be alright and as we walked to the door to say our goodbyes, she heard Junior walking down the hall from his room. As he was around the corner, we couldn't see what was going on but Mom asked, "now Junior, where did you get that?" and he suddenly walked into view with a fucking old rusty machete.

Well naturally, after having half a heart attack, Greg and I drew down on him as we backed towards the front door. Our initial plan was to just get the hell out of the house and deal with whatever we were faced with but it dawned on us that Mom had actually stepped further into the house and there was no way we were going to leave her in their with this guy - thinking what if he's going after her?

Shit, back towards the middle of the living room, putting ourselves between Junior and Mom, telling him very quietly to put the damn blade down all the while having my trigger finger staging the trigger safety on my gun. If that dude would have taken one step towards me, it would have been all over but after two or three repeated commands to put down the machete, his eyes cleared and he bent over and put it on the ground.

Fuck - that was as close I ever came to killing someone and it is a scene that frequently pops into my mind as I watch these guys deal - many times ineffectively, with mental patients. I don't know what I did differently, perhaps nothing. Chalk it up to luck but I know mental patients are the toughest to deal with because of their unpredictability. You just never know what's going to happen next and you can't take anything for granted.

Thanks for sharing a real world story with us...Most of us don't have a clue as to how many of these scenarios happen each and every day. Walk a mile in their shoes...Did you happen to see the special one of the Dallas TV stations did regarding a similar situation that occurred? There were a ton of protests from the black community about the officers use of deadly force. Dallas has a black police chief and he went to the protesters and invited them to spend an afternoon at the academy going through live scenarios that made them choose whether or not to use deadly force, all while being filmed for TV. You want to know the outcome? I'll say this...Each one of them apologized to the members of law enforcement after every scenario was played out. They made the wrong choice each and every time, either they themselves were killed or they killed innocent people each time...let me see if I can find a copy to share...

[Padraig Flaherty]

Guess the ******* shoulda dropped it!

[lion]

Shot down in flames

[Gold-V-66]

The problem with most people who suffer from schizophrenia is they are not on there medication or on the right medication & this should not happen this man was sick & needed help not get shot multiple times by cops who could give a shit only care about going home at the end of there shift a failure on all fronts here

[black_voice]

No lady.... actually you killed your child!!! She failed to warn the officers about his condition and that he even had something in his hand. Smh.

[Royal_Madnessty]

Originally Posted by Gold-V-66 ↗

The problem with most people who suffer from schizophrenia is they are not on there medication or on the right medication & this should not happen this man was sick & needed help not get shot multiple times by cops who could give a shit only care about going home at the end of there shift a failure on all fronts here

I agree. He needed help.

There's a difference between a cold hearted criminal and someone who is mentally ill.