[M.F.D.B.]

Originally Posted by Daishan69 ↗

Notice how in Charlie Kirk's link, the comments are turned off for people's safety, because the fascists among us are... well... Evil. Left wingers getting shot by the Gestapo is a lot safer to comment on. We all know wat they are, we all know who they are, we all have them in our schools and work and families. It's time our society starts putting this thrash we're it belongs.

You are very new here, it's much simpler.

This site is plagued by an extremely overt Leftist, with moderator "privileges", whom cares nothing for fairness nor equality. Quite ironic right?

Charlie Kirks thread is locked because he was conservative. That's it.

No thread that helps push the Lefts narratives shall be wasted on this site...

It's the never ending, "silence anyone who opposes us" chapter from the Gestapo play book. While simultaneously claiming to be founded by, "DEI".

The real Nazi's...

Anyone want to place bets on how many seconds before this comment gets deleted like the rest?

[foxfantastic]

Originally Posted by M.F.D.B. ↗

You are very new here, it's much simpler.

This site is plagued by an extremely overt Leftist, with moderator "privileges", whom cares nothing for fairness nor equality. Quite ironic right?

Charlie Kirks thread is locked because he was conservative. That's it.

No thread that helps push the Lefts narratives shall be wasted on this site...

It's the never ending, "silence anyone who opposes us" chapter from the Gestapo play book. While simultaneously claiming to be founded by, "DEI".

The real Nazi's...

Anyone want to place bets on how many seconds before this comment gets deleted like the rest?

I'd be surprised if it was deleted, as long as you aren't applauding state-sponsored murder.

[foxfantastic]

Originally Posted by Rugboot88 ↗

I want to make sure I’m understanding you correctly. When you say “my fellow compatriots,” are you referring to law enforcement, the citizens in the video, or Americans more broadly? I’m a prior LEO, but I’m speaking here as a citizen concerned with constitutional limits and the use of state power, not as a representative of any group.

I don’t dispute that once a weapon is perceived, the situation changes and officers move out of a dialogue posture. I’ve lived that reality. What I’m pushing back on is the idea that this moment should also end reflection or scrutiny. In my experience, that’s exactly when restraint and accountability matter most.

I’m not here to excuse chaos or assign tribal blame. I’m trying to understand how we talk about these situations in a way that’s consistent with law, responsibility, and the rights that should apply to all of us.

I'm talking about the agents in the video.

I'm sorry, I didnt mean to be ambiguous or offensive; my post just flowed naturally from the idea of the end of negotiations as the founding fathers intended.

[Rugboot88]

Originally Posted by M.F.D.B. ↗

Then you know that the most likely contributing factor, was that these agents had difficulty hearing exactly what was going on, because of the very people creating this situation.

The irony....PALPABLE

I don’t disagree that crowd dynamics complicate perception and communication. I’ve worked scenes where noise, confusion, and adrenaline narrowed everyone’s situational awareness.

Where I differ is on causation versus accountability. Environmental stress explains difficulty, but it doesn’t eliminate the obligation to assess, slow when possible, and be precise with force.

Acknowledging contributing factors doesn’t mean abandoning scrutiny. From my experience, those factors are exactly why restraint and review matter, not why they should stop.

[M.F.D.B.]

Originally Posted by Rugboot88 ↗

I don’t disagree that crowd dynamics complicate perception and communication. I’ve worked scenes where noise, confusion, and adrenaline narrowed everyone’s situational awareness.

Where I differ is on causation versus accountability. Environmental stress explains difficulty, but it doesn’t eliminate the obligation to assess, slow when possible, and be precise with force.

Acknowledging contributing factors doesn’t mean abandoning scrutiny. From my experience, those factors are exactly why restraint and review matter, not why they should stop.

The time elapsed from when the, "gun" notification went out, to the "shots fired" event was FAR longer than the milliseconds between the gun, "getting removed from waste band" and subsequent shots fired. We don't even have confirmation of what exactly transpired yet. I'm giving huge, "benefit of the doubt" leeway here by accepting 100% of the current assumptions by the Leftists.

And that's saying a lot, as I'm likely the most censored, "just because" member of this site. Simply because I'm an SME of numerous gun and related subjects. The resident Gestapo likes to focus on that while simultaneously disavowing the fact i voted FOR gay marriage, FOR legalizing weed, FOR women's rights. Try to make THAT make sense...

[M.F.D.B.]

Originally Posted by foxfantastic ↗

I'd be surprised if it was deleted, as long as you aren't applauding state-sponsored murder.

I have a file full of screen shots saved of every post that's been deleted. Including private messages.

I'm a connoisseur of irony...

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by M.F.D.B. ↗

And that's saying a lot, as I'm likely the most censored, "just because" member of this site. Simply because I'm an SME of numerous gun and related subjects.

Or maybe, just maaaaaaaaaaybe it is because you're an insufferable, entitled narcissist who has a long-standing history of insisting that none of the site's rules apply to you, despite you being the site's actual biggest simp for authoritarian overreach.

Hell, I'd challenge you to go back through the previous decade of your site history here and find me ONE instance where you even grudgingly admitted you'd ever been wrong about ANYthing. Or even once acquiesced 'bad shoot.'

Oh waaaaaaaaaaaaaait, of course. Ashli fucking Babbit.

Even now, you have been instructed dozens (if not hundreds) of times that if you have a problem with a site Moderator or the way one is moderating, you are to address that privately with the site owner.

And yet here you are, pissing and crying about the moderation staff in what now...three? four? FIVE separate posts in this thread? And that's not even including the shit I executively deleted in hopes of you just getting the hint, shutting the fuck up, and not trying to force a confrontation AGAIN.

You can barely even type a post without including me in some way. Maybe consider some counseling for your invasive VDS. I seem to live in your head every waking moment you're on the site.

Originally Posted by M.F.D.B. ↗

The resident Gestapo likes to focus on that while simultaneously disavowing the fact i voted FOR gay marriage, FOR legalizing weed, FOR women's rights. Try to make THAT make sense...

Maybe it's because I am not actually a fucking Leftist and I don't give a damn about your politics. I just have a problem with the way you behave on this site.

You pretend every rule on the site doesn't apply to you, you ignore them at your whim, and then you complain loudly and publicly when you get spanked for it.

Take it up with Management or shut your fucking piehole. For the umpteenth time.

Or, as you are soooooooooooo fond of putting it every single time in the history of the site that some leftist 'agitator' or Black suspect gets 86'd by a jumpy LEO...
"If you'd just comply, you wouldn't get jacked."

Originally Posted by M.F.D.B. ↗

I have a file full of screen shots saved of every post that's been deleted. Including private messages.

I'm a connoisseur of irony...

I don't actually think you understand the meaning of 'irony' as a literary device. Or if you do, you absolutely do not appreciate it. Now go home and get your fucking shinebox.

[Rugboot88]

Originally Posted by M.F.D.B. ↗

The time elapsed from when the, "gun" notification went out, to the "shots fired" event was FAR longer than the milliseconds between the gun, "getting removed from waste band" and subsequent shots fired. We don't even have confirmation of what exactly transpired yet. I'm giving huge, "benefit of the doubt" leeway here by accepting 100% of the current assumptions by the Leftists.

And that's saying a lot, as I'm likely the most censored, "just because" member of this site. Simply because I'm an SME of numerous gun and related subjects. The resident Gestapo likes to focus on that while simultaneously disavowing the fact i voted FOR gay marriage, FOR legalizing weed, FOR women's rights. Try to make THAT make sense...

I hear what you’re saying, and I appreciate the technical framing you brought to it. The sequencing and mechanics matter, and I don’t dismiss that perspective at all. Understanding how a moment unfolds under stress is important, especially when things compress into seconds.

My focus sits a bit downstream from that. Technical explanations help explain how decisions get made in real time. They don’t fully answer the separate question of how we reflect on outcomes afterward, particularly when lethal force is involved. From my perspective, those conversations serve different purposes, and I think both can coexist without canceling each other out.

On the moderation side, I noticed some comments were removed, but that’s not really my concern. This is a privately owned site, and enforcement is properly in the hands of the moderators. My interest here is in the substance of the discussion and whether we can talk through hard issues without losing sight of constitutional limits and accountability.

I’m not here to assign blame or question anyone’s experience. I’m just trying to keep the conversation grounded in law, responsibility, and the idea that scrutiny and restraint still matter, even when situations are chaotic.

[Analcuck]

Originally Posted by Rugboot88 ↗

I hear what you’re saying, and I appreciate the technical framing you brought to it. The sequencing and mechanics matter, and I don’t dismiss that perspective at all. Understanding how a moment unfolds under stress is important, especially when things compress into seconds.

My focus sits a bit downstream from that. Technical explanations help explain how decisions get made in real time. They don’t fully answer the separate question of how we reflect on outcomes afterward, particularly when lethal force is involved. From my perspective, those conversations serve different purposes, and I think both can coexist without canceling each other out.

On the moderation side, I noticed some comments were removed, but that’s not really my concern. This is a privately owned site, and enforcement is properly in the hands of the moderators. My interest here is in the substance of the discussion and whether we can talk through hard issues without losing sight of constitutional limits and accountability.

I’m not here to assign blame or question anyone’s experience. I’m just trying to keep the conversation grounded in law, responsibility, and the idea that scrutiny and restraint still matter, even when situations are chaotic.

Lol Thanks, ChatGPT.

[Rugboot88]

Originally Posted by Anal Dough ↗

Lol Thanks, ChatGPT.

If sounding measured earns a ChatGPT joke, I’ll live with that. Years in uniform taught me that precision and restraint beat noise. Happy to keep talking substance if you are.