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03-26-2015, 09:20 AM
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Re: John Crawford III Shooting
Seriously, you Americans are fucking Idiots. Are you all really that insecure that every one needs to be armed to the teeth. and then you ask why? looks to me like your just creating more problems from solutions. Here in Australia, you want to get all gangsta, you fight with you fucking knuckles and if you had a bad day at school, you suck it up and deal with it. No easy access to fully automatic weapons here, we save that for our military. our egos arent that delicate that we feel the need to shoot every one who upsets us!
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#82
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03-26-2015, 12:47 PM
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Why are toy manufacturers allowed to make fake guns that even COPS can't tell are fake? I see them shoot before he even notices they're there, so how can they say he disobeyed orders?! Unfortunately, COPS and WOMEN can do whatever the fuck they want in the good ole (facetious) USA |
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03-26-2015, 06:56 PM
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 My Rank: PRIVATE FIRST CLASS Poster Rank:4033 male Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 78 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Quoted: 11 Post(s)
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what the fuck america??? you can buy guns in a supermarket? oh my... thats awesome! why cant i do that in germany?? no serious... your country is so fucked up in that way. But i still love it   |
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#87
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03-31-2015, 09:33 AM
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Hey Crocodile Dundee...just an FYI, I could fly to Australia and have a gun in my hands within 24 hours. They exist in every single country in the world, and they aren't that hard to obtain. And just to show how uneducated you are, only in certain states here can you own a fully automatic weapon...you have to jump through hoops to get approval, and on top of that the Class III (fully automatic) weapons are very expensive. Get a little more info before you go spouting off at the keyboard next time.
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#88
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03-31-2015, 09:43 AM
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Acting like Rambo, while not firing a single shot? It's not like he walked in with the gun, it was sold at the very store he was in. On top of that, it was a pellet gun which isn't even considered a firearm. Simply put, he was shot while walking around with a pellet gun talking on his cell phone...that's murder plain and simple. Notice the word in bold there? The entire situation was escalated by the police, not Crawford. |
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04-01-2015, 08:10 AM
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Something entirely forgotten in this discussion is that Ohio is an "open carry" state. I live in the south and we aren't allowed to carry a weapon in the open. We're required to obtain a concealed weapon permit. Brandishing a weapon openly here is illegal. Not in Ohio. So even if he was carrying a weapon openly and not threatening anyone with it and the store had no posted prohibition regarding bringing a weapon into the store, the shooting was still unjustifiable except for the fact that the responding police was acting on supposed actionable intelligence from a witness that was claiming he was a clear and immediate threat to life and safety of the customers. The cops acted on the itelligence they had which was faulty. Why isn't anyone seriously considering the idiot that made the emergency call that was obviously false and caused a man to lose his life. This guy should be the one indicted for murder. Under any normal circumstance that a criminal act occurs and in the commission, someone loses their life, that person is often charged with being an accessory to murder even if the police are the cause. The reasoning being that the "accessory" to the crime becomes responsible even if they didn't have a weapon, but were the principle cause of the death. Why hasn't this bigot been charged? We can discuss gun laws and control all day long. Bottom line his posession of even a hunting rifle in the store would have been entirely legal under open carry unless the store directly prohibited it by a posted notice. Then it would be a question if he entered without a weapon, yet picked one up in the store which then comes under the doctrine of invitation. A store can say no weapons permitted, yet if they sell them and invite you in to buy them and you handle the weapon, you can't be considered in violation of their prohibition if they made ready access to their merchandise. |
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04-01-2015, 01:48 PM
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Bingo. I think between the caller and the police, this was out of control from the beginning without Crawford even having to do anything "rash" or unusual. The caller was probably flipping out telling the dispatcher things that were not actually happening, which was then being relayed to the responding officers, which then led to him being shot before they needed to use such force. The bottom line: The police acted aggressively from the start, as admitted by the prosecutor in the article. |
