[Seldian]

Originally Posted by danielsan1971 ↗

OK. So this might sound like me being a Britisher, but here in England WalMart is called Asda. Asda is a 'family' supermarket, one of the biggest in the UK before a part take over from WalMart. I can't believe that in the US you can buy 'guns' from a supermarket!! That's fucking crazy!!! I am no gun expert and use the word in the 'bang' kind of way, but is it that easy to purchase one in the US??

Yes its pretty easy, but you have to be screened beforehand. There are restrictions on what you can and cant have though, a lot of the cool stuff requires approval from your local police department as well as huge fees. The guns you see in the supermarkets like walmart arnt really sport, or assault guns; they are for hunting.

[30564U]

So it begins...it's scary when you're right.

Walmart Shooting Victim's Family Wants Charges Filed Against 911 SWATer

John Crawford III was gunned down with little or no warning by Beavercreek, Ohio police last month after a man called 911 and claimed that he was pointing a rifle at shoppers inside a Walmart. Crawford had picked up a BB gun sold by the store and was apparently thinking about purchasing it.

Video clearly shows that the caller, Ronald Ritchie, made claims about Crawford’s actions that simply were not true:

John Crawford III was shot dead last month by an officer responding to an emergency call made by Ronald Ritchie, a shopper standing 100ft away, who repeatedly stated to the dispatcher that Crawford was pointing the air rifle at customers.

Surveillance footage and audio recordings released after a grand jury declined to indict the officer who shot Crawford showed that Crawford was holding the rifle at his side and pointing it to the floor at the time when Ritchie alleged that “he just pointed it at, like, two children”.

Crawford’s father and the family’s attorney said that Ritchie, 24, should be questioned by police over the discrepancy between the footage and his allegation, which he made about 80 seconds before Crawford was shot, and confirmed when asked soon after. Knowingly “making false alarms” is a crime under Ohio law punishable by a fine or jail sentence.

“He was the catalyst, if you will, in the whole sequence of events leading up to my son’s death,” John Crawford Jr told the Guardian. “It was a crank call. He excited the call, and exaggerated the call, and frankly it was just a bunch of lies.”

Ritchie declined to comment in an online message on Friday. He has previously maintained that Crawford posed a threat to shoppers and that the 911 call was justified.

Special prosecutor Mark Piepmeier stressed on Wednesday that the responding police officers were led to understand that Crawford was an active threat. One even called back to the dispatcher to check that the 911 caller said Crawford was pointing the rifle at people. “If he’s not there, we may not be here,” Piepmeier said of Ritchie at a press conference.

To the best we can determine, Ritchie’s 911 call was the only 911 call regarding Crawford, and there were no other 911 calls until after Beavercreek police shot Crawford as he was speaking to the mother of his children, the barrel of the BB gun in his hands pointing at the ground.

A grand jury did not indict the officers who shot Crawford, but the evidence has been handed over to the Department of Justice to determine if a civil rights case is warranted.

In addition to Crawford’s death, shopper Angela Williams (above, right, in white sweater) had a heart attack and died in the panic after officers shot Crawford. Neither she nor her children seemed fazed by Crawford talking on the phone while holding the BB gun. Williams’s son holds Ritchie responsible for her death as well.

The children who Ritchie appeared to claim were under threat from Crawford were in the store with their mother, Angela Williams. Williams, 37, died of a heart attack in the panic that ensued among customers following the police shooting. “I hope that he’s happy with himself,” her teenage son said of Ritchie in a Facebook post earlier this month.

911 caller Ritchie’s exaggerated call is eerily similar to the kind of call advocated by left-wing radio host Mike Malloy and some Moms Demand Action supporters who apparently want long-gun open carriers shot by police.

[joak]

Originally Posted by khaos89 ↗

Stupid cunt sbould have seen that coming. And now we'll have to put up with it all over the news for the next month with countless idiots saying it was murder and that he was a "nice boy".

We'll probably see some rioting also from morons screaming "racist" when there is no racism to be found, just another black idiot who should have expected to be shot.

no riots that i've heard of.


now what?

[jaybo]

Originally Posted by danielsan1971 ↗

OK. So this might sound like me being a Britisher, but here in England WalMart is called Asda. Asda is a 'family' supermarket, one of the biggest in the UK before a part take over from WalMart. I can't believe that in the US you can buy 'guns' from a supermarket!! That's fucking crazy!!! I am no gun expert and use the word in the 'bang' kind of way, but is it that easy to purchase one in the US??

actual guns are in locked cases with trigger locks to buy rifles in most states you need to be over 21 have a drivers license fill out a fed form they call it in they do a check criminal etc and you have it. hand guns are different

[jaybo]

Originally Posted by Seldian ↗

Yes its pretty easy, but you have to be screened beforehand. There are restrictions on what you can and cant have though, a lot of the cool stuff requires approval from your local police department as well as huge fees. The guns you see in the supermarkets like walmart arnt really sport, or assault guns; they are for hunting.

they're no assault guns period assault guns are full auto machine guns and after 86 you can't purchase one period. Only pre 86 made auto assault rifles can be bought and its a 6 month process I know I collect them, what your talking about and the libs talk about are semi auto blk look alines that have to have the trigger pull each time to shoot as a sporting hunting rifle. Its not walmarts fault you take a rifle air or not out of a box unattended is wrong, stupid dangerous and can and did get yourself shot. He has nobody but himself to blame my 5 year old son knows better and frankly the parents should be shot for bad parenting lets get real, common sense goes along way

[joak]

Originally Posted by 30564U ↗

So it begins...it's scary when you're right.

Walmart Shooting Victim's Family Wants Charges Filed Against 911 SWATer

John Crawford III was gunned down with little or no warning by Beavercreek, Ohio police last month after a man called 911 and claimed that he was pointing a rifle at shoppers inside a Walmart. Crawford had picked up a BB gun sold by the store and was apparently thinking about purchasing it.

Video clearly shows that the caller, Ronald Ritchie, made claims about Crawford’s actions that simply were not true:

John Crawford III was shot dead last month by an officer responding to an emergency call made by Ronald Ritchie, a shopper standing 100ft away, who repeatedly stated to the dispatcher that Crawford was pointing the air rifle at customers.

Surveillance footage and audio recordings released after a grand jury declined to indict the officer who shot Crawford showed that Crawford was holding the rifle at his side and pointing it to the floor at the time when Ritchie alleged that “he just pointed it at, like, two children”.

Crawford’s father and the family’s attorney said that Ritchie, 24, should be questioned by police over the discrepancy between the footage and his allegation, which he made about 80 seconds before Crawford was shot, and confirmed when asked soon after. Knowingly “making false alarms” is a crime under Ohio law punishable by a fine or jail sentence.

“He was the catalyst, if you will, in the whole sequence of events leading up to my son’s death,” John Crawford Jr told the Guardian. “It was a crank call. He excited the call, and exaggerated the call, and frankly it was just a bunch of lies.”

Ritchie declined to comment in an online message on Friday. He has previously maintained that Crawford posed a threat to shoppers and that the 911 call was justified.

Special prosecutor Mark Piepmeier stressed on Wednesday that the responding police officers were led to understand that Crawford was an active threat. One even called back to the dispatcher to check that the 911 caller said Crawford was pointing the rifle at people. “If he’s not there, we may not be here,” Piepmeier said of Ritchie at a press conference.

To the best we can determine, Ritchie’s 911 call was the only 911 call regarding Crawford, and there were no other 911 calls until after Beavercreek police shot Crawford as he was speaking to the mother of his children, the barrel of the BB gun in his hands pointing at the ground.

A grand jury did not indict the officers who shot Crawford, but the evidence has been handed over to the Department of Justice to determine if a civil rights case is warranted.

In addition to Crawford’s death, shopper Angela Williams (above, right, in white sweater) had a heart attack and died in the panic after officers shot Crawford. Neither she nor her children seemed fazed by Crawford talking on the phone while holding the BB gun. Williams’s son holds Ritchie responsible for her death as well.

The children who Ritchie appeared to claim were under threat from Crawford were in the store with their mother, Angela Williams. Williams, 37, died of a heart attack in the panic that ensued among customers following the police shooting. “I hope that he’s happy with himself,” her teenage son said of Ritchie in a Facebook post earlier this month.

911 caller Ritchie’s exaggerated call is eerily similar to the kind of call advocated by left-wing radio host Mike Malloy and some Moms Demand Action supporters who apparently want long-gun open carriers shot by police.

have you seen the video of that fucking dipshit cop who went half-cocked on that dude reaching for his license outside the gas station?

luckily the officer was a horrible shot and the guy survived. that, along with dash cam footage, is probably the reason why every #teamwilson fucking "expert" remains silent on the issue.

cops make mistakes. tensions run high. it's a stressful job, no doubt. but when a police officer makes a DEADLY mistake, it is time to take a look at the officer's training and capabilities. that's not just some wimpy liberal bullshit. that is logic. it's protocol.

cops, much like the military, are held to a higher standard for a reason. you need to have the discipline, wit, and tactical proficiency to make split second decisions.

i don't really believe that these guys were in the wrong...you don't go walking around a store with anything even resembling a firearm (even if it's a fucking airsoft gun or whatever). i get that. but there is a problem that needs to be addressed. there are quite a few instances, as of late, where a supposed expert, in a position of authority, has made an unwise decision that resulted in somebody's death.

but leave it to people like YOU who turn it into a made-up conflict of opinions between "the leftists" (whatever the fuck that is) and the "right" side...conveniently, the one you stand on, shaking your fist like a fucking hysteric.

when discussing the shooting death of a civilian (criminal or not) the conversation ends when people start throwing around political generalizations like "left-wing" and "right-wing", and go on about "gun rights". fucking idiotic.

[nzcelt]

beavercreek

[fredy]

Originally Posted by joak ↗

have you seen the video of that fucking dipshit cop who went half-cocked on that dude reaching for his license outside the gas station?

luckily the officer was a horrible shot and the guy survived. that, along with dash cam footage, is probably the reason why every #teamwilson fucking "expert" remains silent on the issue.

cops make mistakes. tensions run high. it's a stressful job, no doubt. but when a police officer makes a DEADLY mistake, it is time to take a look at the officer's training and capabilities. that's not just some wimpy liberal bullshit. that is logic. it's protocol.

cops, much like the military, are held to a higher standard for a reason. you need to have the discipline, wit, and tactical proficiency to make split second decisions.

i don't really believe that these guys were in the wrong...you don't go walking around a store with anything even resembling a firearm (even if it's a fucking airsoft gun or whatever). i get that. but there is a problem that needs to be addressed. there are quite a few instances, as of late, where a supposed expert, in a position of authority, has made an unwise decision that resulted in somebody's death.

but leave it to people like YOU who turn it into a made-up conflict of opinions between "the leftists" (whatever the fuck that is) and the "right" side...conveniently, the one you stand on, shaking your fist like a fucking hysteric.

when discussing the shooting death of a civilian (criminal or not) the conversation ends when people start throwing around political generalizations like "left-wing" and "right-wing", and go on about "gun rights". fucking idiotic.

Ive been waiting for someone to say this shit, everything turns to political bullshit and label it as such. its either all "leftists" or "right winged" never anything else

[Tantrix]

Originally Posted by danielsan1971 ↗

OK. So this might sound like me being a Britisher, but here in England WalMart is called Asda. Asda is a 'family' supermarket, one of the biggest in the UK before a part take over from WalMart. I can't believe that in the US you can buy 'guns' from a supermarket!! That's fucking crazy!!! I am no gun expert and use the word in the 'bang' kind of way, but is it that easy to purchase one in the US??

Yeah, that's how I buy mine...walk up, point at it, fill out some papers, pay, walk out. Entire process takes about 10 minutes for rifle or handgun. Or alternatively I can just meet a guy somewhere, inspect the gun he's selling (call in serial# to local Sheriff's office to check if stolen if I want) hand him cash and we drive our separate ways. But then again, I don't live in a Communist state like CA, IL, NJ, etc. I live in one of the most gun-friendly states in the country.

Originally Posted by bode5997 ↗

You need to ban the fucking guns,went to New York 10 years ago,there 2 hours some cunt shoves a gun in my face and mugs me.Went home the next day and ain't been back since.

NY already has strict gun laws...you think that's going to stop criminals from having thrm?? You must be smoking some good shit. The funniest part of your story is, you went to a state that's not gun-friendly which means the criminals are the ones who have the most guns...not the law-abiding citizens who could have helped you in that situation like it is where I live. Next time, go to a free state.

[Parannoyed]

American police have got to be the dumbest humans on the planet. Of course they where acquitted, fuckin pigs