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07-21-2014, 08:28 PM
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Re: Israeli Sniper Killing Wounded Civilian
someone needs to read up and learn on how the israeli defense forces fight. they're not even allowed to fire at an enemy who is firing at them without authorization that civilians are not in the area. that's a damn shame. I would want to kill whoever is firing at me, and whoever the fuck is around those bastards. |
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07-21-2014, 09:40 PM
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Unfortunately till today it was not proven that hamas or whomever was involved in this. And if so, it is a crime ! Who the fuck is so sick, beneath the US and israel, to start a war against a whole "country" (occupied) for 3 deaths ? Normaly police investigate and you get someone to a court, Finish. But Israel wants again to proceed its ethnic massacre on palestines, because they are racists, and because they want to steal even more land. Israel was and will never be interested in a peacefull 2 state solution, because this would have them to give land back to the palestinians. So they will keep massacring them, untill somebody nukes Israel, or the people in Israel stand up for human rights, in fact there is apartheid, there are a lot of laws against arabs, only for jews, there are very much areas where arabs are not allowed to go, even if they are jewish arabs, there are streets in which israelis walk and beside them streets for palestinians. There are buses that are not usable by muslims, there are walls everywhere, Israel is able to shut down electricity whenever they want and they do it, most time palestinians only have 3-4 hours a day electricity. There is no source of clean water, palestinians are not allowed to fish, and so on and on. This is pure racism and hatred, against a population that did nothing to israel ( at least no serious harm). So in conclusion, someday im sure in 10-20 years, our childs will ask us where we were when all this massacres happened against a innocent, inprisoned population, whom only wrong is that they are muslims. And we will answer in the same way like after the 2nd world war ? |
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07-21-2014, 10:16 PM
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We don't need to read the official blah blah blah, as it's quite obvious (to anyone with an atom of fairness within their heart) from the video (and the their entire history) what the Israeli army get up to.
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07-21-2014, 10:21 PM
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You don't have the foggiest clue what's going on over there, do you?
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07-21-2014, 11:01 PM
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Here's the history lesson nobody gives you because everybody gives you a one-sided, propaganda based view: After about 1000 year cycle of Jews getting hated on and expelled from most of Europe (whether they deserved it or if they were wrongly persecuted is a pretty awesome debate to have), Hitler attempted to finally get rid of them once and for all. He gave it his all but came up short. In response (Post WWII), the world decided to create a country out of thin air to re-patriate Jews back to their holy land (one that they themselves took by force by beheading lots of Caananites, because God told them to and all, and one which they hadn't really had any control over in a long, long time). This creation of a country out of thin air was pretty much unprecedented in human history, but because Jew influence was so strong in the west, particularly in the U.S., it happened anyway. This caused all of the surrounding arab states to declare that they were going to wipe out Israel, and instructed the local arabs to evacuate. Unfortunately for them, Israel whipped their ass, and a bazillion refugees have basically been refugees since. While whipping Arab ass, Israel occupied the Golan Heights (Syrian), Gaza (Egyptian), and the West Bank (Jordanian). Since, those three lands have been contentious. Israel has been reluctant to hand them back, as they are/were strategically important. At some point over the decades, the peoples in those contentious areas began to transform their identity from what they really are (refugees from the arab-israeli war), into self-identifying as an ethnic group, the "Palestinians", and have been selling the notion that they are a poor oppressed local peoples who have been there for thousands of years. They've claimed all kinds of bullshit like they're descendants of the phillistines, etc. The reality is that ethnically, most of them are either recent refugees, or hills people from the Syrian highlands who were brought in in the late 19th century to work on the diamond mines for, you guessed it, Jew financiers in the U.K. (there's your ironic twist). Eventually (in the 90s), Israel attempted to give Gaza they're self-governing independence under the Palestinian Authority. The problem is that the arab world, and those in the Palestinian territories, have never given up the goal of annihilating Israel, even though they've done a decent job of making people in the west believe it. Thus, Israel is constantly being pressured (by the west) to accept "cease fires" and "peace deals" that the palestinians have no real desire to stick to for any length of time. After Gaza was given their independence, they responded by organizing for a few years and then waging war on Israel, under the PLO and boy-raping leader Yassir Arafat. The leadership of the PLO eventually became Fatah, one faction of palestinian leadership. Meanwhile, an even more radical offshoot of the muslim brotherhood formed, called Hamas. Hamas seized control of Gaza several years ago after an lol-rigged election, and Gaza has basically been fucked since. One problem is that Hamas leadership is so bad, that even when they want to leave Israel alone, plenty of people don't, and they end up pissing Israel off anyway. Slowly, Arab countries have gotten sick of the Palestinians, and have backed away from the "we need to destroy israel" line, and many now wish the Palestinians would settle down. One problem is that Egypt wants no part of trying to govern Gaza, and the Jordanians want no part in trying to govern the West Bank. Thus, the cleanest solution, which would be to have Egypt re-absorb Gaza, Jordan re-absorb the West Bank, and Syria re-absorb the Golan Heights, will not happen as long as A) those countries don't want to deal with absorbing them, and B) The Palestinians refuse to give up on the thought of eradicating Israel. Thus, you have the current situation which is periodic flare-ups where the Israelis get sick of getting attacked, and do some military operations outside of Israel to try and fix the problem. The whole world has its mind made up about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, so everytime it happens everyone already has their mind made up about who's right and wrong. Unfortunately, nothing is ever that black and white, and the reality is that everyone is at least partially full of shit. I have no idea why I bothered to type all of that out, but seeing someone post an honest request for info in the middle of all of the stupid "OMG FUCK ISRAEL" and "OMG FUCK THE HAMAS TERRORISTS" posts inspired me I guess. I know you said short and sweet but honestly, that's as short and sweet as I can make it and still explain the situation to someone. Sorry, hope it didn't bore you. |
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07-21-2014, 11:22 PM
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There are no ethical or moral considerations in the eyes of the shooter. It sucks that innocent people have to suffer from this conflict....  |
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07-22-2014, 09:08 AM
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It's extremely important to keep reiterating the fact that there are innocent civilians on both the Israeli's side and the Palestinian's side that want NO PART of war and only want peace. Those people are no different than the rest of us and should not be forgot about. This is turning in to an outright slaughter of innocence. This is reality. Nobody realized this on this level before because we never had direct video footage of it. We live in a bubble and thought that there was more precision with who is targeted and who isn't and innocent losses could be avoided. But it can't. There are always people that are hungry to kill "the enemy" and will do just about anything to justify what they did. Just like the police brutality videos now available. War and law enforcement is SLOPPY. Why? Because we are relying on all sorts of different humans with different prejudices and bias' and immaturity etc. These people are eager to kill rather than being eager to resolve. Dominance! We can't be having any ego's hurt around here. Establish your power! etc. That's a huge problem in law enforcement and the military. |
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07-22-2014, 09:41 AM
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Palestinians or Philistines as they were known in Biblical times were forcefully repatriated to make way for the Israeli state in 1948. If it had been the States you would not have felt this way. What you are seeing is Apartheid applied in the Middle East. Do you have any idea how disenfranchised these people are? Do I support the death of innocents, such as the three teenage Israeli's that precipitated this new war..? Absolutely not. But walk a mile in their shoes and see how good it feels to live as a third class pariah.
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07-22-2014, 10:10 AM
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Those "1000`s of missiles" are actually ineffective rockets with a very short range and have only killed ONE person is the past decade and no one before. Those rockets all fall in the open desert, just ONE has made it to the very outskirts of Tel Aviv but didn`t even injure anyone. And yes, there are the tunnels you speak of, however, no one has ever been killed because of these tunnels. So I don`t know where you get the idea that "they kill whomever they can" from. I blame Israel for this conflict. They are causing unnecessary pain and suffering and death by bombing hospitals, schools and homes and killing many, many children. I have NO SYMPATHY for Israel. Hamas is not a major power like Israel, and he has very limited weapons and military clout, whereas Israel is a major world power. Educate yourself before you spout off nonsense.
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