[Lrrr]

Originally Posted by DegoLocc ↗

I don't like that they don't show their faces, but unfortunately in many cases it's necessary because there are those ppl out there who want to dox and harass good agents(yea they do exist) just doing their job and trying to keep the country secure.

They wouldn't need to be doxxed if they're identifying themselves. that's literally a requirement. full name, and badge ID/#

this is like saying people shouldn't be allowed to film private business in public because someone might rob the store.

See how stupid that sounds?

Originally Posted by DegoLocc ↗

In the streets they have total say on how it goes and that is a product of having a civil society.

I'm genuinely curious if you know the definition of fascist? We don't need to call you one, you just ARE one.

Originally Posted by DegoLocc ↗

It's not up to you or any other vigilante to take the law into their own hands and disrupt federal agents doing their job in the streets.

It's literally in the constitution of America, sir.

Originally Posted by DegoLocc ↗

We are a society and nation of laws. Part of respecting that is coming here legally, and staying out of the way when we remove ppl who are here illegally.

get fucked, fascist

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by DegoLocc ↗

Well said. A very measured response from an Admin. Thank you for acting like one instead of banning anyone who you disagree with in a fit of rage and power abuse like some admin are known to do.

Part of being deserving of power is being capable enough to wield it. And you seem to have that qualification covered.

Chris needs another couple like you around IMO.

Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it. Just to be clear, what I wrote earlier was me speaking as a person, not as moderation. Staff do not stop being human just because we have extra buttons.

As for moderation, Ved has this handled. Threads like this get heated fast and he has way more experience than I do managing that side of things. He is not banning people for shits and giggles, he is dealing with people who ignore instructions or derail Death threads into political slap fights. That is all.

We are not carbon copies of each other and we are not expected to sound the same, but we do back each other in keeping the site functional. I was just reacting like a regular person for a minute.

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by DegoLocc ↗

We are a society and nation of laws. Part of respecting that is coming here legally, and staying out of the way when we remove ppl who are here illegally. If someone doesn't like that by all means protest to your hearts content, but stay out of the way of the agents doing their jobs.

A 'society and nation of laws' that elected a twice-impeached convicted felon with 34 counts on his jacket. A convicted felon who subsequently pardoned hundreds of convicted insurrectionists, despite mountains of evidence of their guilt, just to reward them for their witless 'loyalty'.

Yeah...sorry, man. That 'nation of laws' rhetoric just ain't what it used to be.

And that convicted felon, in an effort to allow his minions time to circumvent yet another law, has been ramping up targeted public ICE raids in Democratically aligned cities in order to keep the nation from complaining about the failure to release legally-mandated documents implicating him and his rich cronies in a decades-long series of underaged sex-trafficking crimes.

Weaponizing federal agents to target your political opponents and the citizens who vote for them is hardly 'rule of law.' And yet the majority of ICE raids in GOP cities take place in prisons, arresting only illegals who have committed actual crimes. Whereas in Blue cities, they swarm the streets like fucking bees, masked and unidentified. They don't tell anyone what they are doing or who they are after. They just show up to terrorize neighborhoods and workplaces.

Because that's exactly what they were directed to do.

By our 'society of laws' president with 34 felony convictions.

Who has never paid for the crimes our 'nation of laws' convicted him of, because he knew he could count on enough racists, bigots, and simpletons to put him back into office after the 'society of laws' Court he packed with appointees unjustly denied to the prior administration by our 'nation of laws' congress had declared him universally immune to prosecution, putting one man above all laws for the first time in our nation's 'society of laws' history.

I'm sorry, mate. But falling back to that 'society of laws' horseshit as ANY part of your response is a farce. It'd be funny if it weren't for the fact that it's an actual tragedy instead.

It is very difficult to take anyone seriously in 2025 when they use that terminology. It is no longer a statement that one can use with earnestness unless one is a misguided fool or a shill for the Fash.

[WonderMomma]

wow, I see you two have already been discussing things.

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

WM is a good Mod and I respect her a great deal.

Thank you. Likewise, mister. :)

[Killgaad]

Originally Posted by zhazoo ↗

Page 1 dumbfucks must not see the dude in front of the car as she "drove away"....toward the the dude.

Are you blind, or just retarded—or both?

Fuck you.

[robot]

Originally Posted by foxfantastic ↗

What I'm referring to is YOUR desire for the other people here, who were protesting at a distance, to be harmed. This is what YOU said:



It has nothing to do with these events. This is something that YOU wish had happened.

Take a moment to reflect on that, and again, these are your countrymen, exercising what little rights we have while we still have them.

"I" am not "tehguy" so I don't know what you're talking about. Avoid these protests at all costs. Ms. Good's young children now lost a parent. This is tragic.

[DegoLocc]

Originally Posted by Lrrr ↗

They wouldn't need to be doxxed if they're identifying themselves. that's literally a requirement. full name, and badge ID/#

this is like saying people shouldn't be allowed to film private business in public because someone might rob the store.

See how stupid that sounds?

Unfortunately it's required because there are a lot of far left progressives who are incapable of separating a bad actor ICE agent against a good one. People like you are extremists and they think every ICE agent is a "fascist nazi". So they would literally harass dox any agent that they could find the name or face of.

Completely unhinged emotional people like yourself are how Trump got back into office. They were voting against extremists like you.

You may actually mean well, but you let your morality go to your head and cloud your judgment. You think anyone who disagrees with you about anything is the enemy, is MAGA.

The rest of your comment hardly warrants a response because your bias and partisanship is so strong you are a clown that isn't worth a debate.



Just know you are one side of the problem with the country's division in the present age. Be better. Stop being just as divisive and horrible as those you claim to detest.

[DegoLocc]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it. Just to be clear, what I wrote earlier was me speaking as a person, not as moderation. Staff do not stop being human just because we have extra buttons.

As for moderation, Ved has this handled. Threads like this get heated fast and he has way more experience than I do managing that side of things. He is not banning people for shits and giggles, he is dealing with people who ignore instructions or derail Death threads into political slap fights. That is all.

We are not carbon copies of each other and we are not expected to sound the same, but we do back each other in keeping the site functional. I was just reacting like a regular person for a minute.

Fair enough I will take your word for it that Vedd is on top of things. And apologies, I didn't mean to point out, compare or pin you two against each other.

That was not my intention. I just wanted to give your measured response props because I overall agreed with most of it.

[Bigred512]

Originally Posted by cannonreload ↗

This is objectively an untrained ice "agent" murdering an American citizen because their mandate is to cause a citizen backlash that they can point to as a reason to REALLY violate the Constitution. It's quite obvious to anyone with moderate critical thinking skills who's paying attention

DHS is leading a huge hiring drive for these guys through online and non-traditional means, there are bound to be some undeserving candidates who get the nod. I'd lean on Hanlon's razor-
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" and assume that stepping in front of 2 tons of potential death for a minor offense wasn't SOC.

The biggest shitstains are those calling for more violence on both sides. If you create an environment where unqualified and under-qualified federal LEOs get it in their head that people want them dead, what did you expect is going to happen? On the other hand, if you constantly side with LEOs no matter the surrounding circumstances, how are you going to hold the bad ones accountable?

[DegoLocc]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

A 'society and nation of laws' that elected a twice-impeached convicted felon with 34 counts on his jacket. A convicted felon who subsequently pardoned hundreds of convicted insurrectionists, despite mountains of evidence of their guilt, just to reward them for their witless 'loyalty'.

Yeah...sorry, man. That 'nation of laws' rhetoric just ain't what it used to be.

And that convicted felon, in an effort to allow his minions time to circumvent yet another law, has been ramping up targeted public ICE raids in Democratically aligned cities in order to keep the nation from complaining about the failure to release legally-mandated documents implicating him and his rich cronies in a decades-long series of underaged sex-trafficking crimes.

Militarizing federal agents to target your political opponents and the citizens who vote for them is hardly 'rule of law.' And yet the majority of ICE raids in GOP cities take place in prisons, arresting only illegals who have committed actual crimes. Whereas in Blue cities, they swarm the streets like fucking bees, masked and unidentified. They don't tell anyone what they are doing or who they are after. They just show up to terrorize neighborhoods and workplaces.

Because that's exactly what they were directed to do.

By our 'society of laws' president with 34 felony convictions.

Who has never paid for the crimes our 'nation of laws' convicted him of, because he knew he could count on enough racists, bigots, and simpletons to put him back into office after the 'society of laws' Court he packed with appointees unjustly denied to the prior administration by our 'nation of laws' congress had declared him universally immune to prosecution, putting one man above all laws for the first time in our nation's history.

I'm sorry, man. But falling back to that 'society of laws' horseshit as ANY part of your response is a farce. It'd be funny if it weren't for the fact that it's an actual tragedy instead.

It is very difficult to take anyone seriously in 2025 when they use that terminology. It is n longer a statement that one can use with earnestness unless one is a misguided fool or a shill for the Fash.

I hear you man. Unfortunately the voting public disagreed and went for the man harder than they did in 2016 or 2020. He only gained support. He has more support today than he did on Jan 6th 2020. It's sad but I don't think citizens disrupting ICE agents is the answer at all.

ICE agents taking people wasn't an issue back when Obama was doing it, it only became an "issue" because of Trump.

And sadly Trump tapped into that issue and it resonated with a lot of voters. Just because ppl want legal immigration and respect for our nations sovereignty.

I almost wish the Democrats would have campaigned on legal immigration instead of Trump, then we would have never had Trump or the distrust in ICE. But the Democrats chose virtue signaling and being anti whatever Trump was talking about and here we are.