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I never questioned if going to Iraq was a good or a bad thing.
You say that that your country does not go into any conflict, only those which are indicated the most. Yes Saddam could've killed many more than he did, but what about almost ANY country in Africa?

Killing about 800 thousand (!) civilians is not good enough for the west to intervene? Or the constant massacres (which seems to be a national sport over there) in a dozen countries? What are we doing right now?

And please, making a statement like "You owe us for Hitler" will make people's blood boiling who live east of Berlin.(And as far as I remeber the US didnt get into europe alone...). Please dont act like you were the hero of the day, all countries just sat on their asses sucking their thumbs and the eastern front didnt exist...

Nope, thinking through what you've said about calculating where to go to war, I still think that there is no intervention if there is no self-interest involved.

Just as a side note: Im not belittling the american people, Im not hating on them, Im only debating foreign policy.
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I never questioned if going to Iraq was a good or a bad thing.
You say that that your country does not go into any conflict, only those which are indicated the most. Yes Saddam could've killed many more than he did, but what about almost ANY country in Africa?

Killing about 800 thousand (!) civilians is not good enough for the west to intervene? Or the constant massacres (which seems to be a national sport over there) in a dozen countries? What are we doing right now?

And please, making a statement like "You owe us for Hitler" will make people's blood boiling who live east of Berlin.(And as far as I remeber the US didnt get into europe alone...). Please dont act like you were the hero of the day, all countries just sat on their asses sucking their thumbs and the eastern front didnt exist...

Nope, thinking through what you've said about calculating where to go to war, I still think that there is no intervention if there is no self-interest involved.

Just as a side note: Im not belittling the american people, Im not hating on them, Im only debating foreign policy.
Only parts of my reply was directed at you personally. NOT all of it. Most of it is about the general attitude of U.S. haters. I could take on every point you made and bury them. But what's the point?

People like yourself don't want to give credit where credit is due. As far as Africa, why has the U.S. not went to war there?

Well anyone with an IQ of 10 or more would probably say that it's simply because we don't consider them a threat to world peace. They are a threat to themselves only. And a damn good one at that. They act like animals and it will be generations before they become civilized.

Middle eastern countries under the influence of Islam are a million times more of a threat to the entire world than disorganized, uneducated Africans with AK47's. One day they'll buy a Cessna and then they'll have an air force.

The furthest they reach out to interfere with the rest of the world is through piracy. Which has greatly decreased since the world has taken a firm stance against them. Including the U.S. bringing them back here for trial now. Although life in a U.S. prison with 3 meals a day will be a vacation to them compared to freedom in Africa under starvation.

As far as Hitler, come on. Seriously? You act as though the U.S. did NOT save the day on that one? See, that is just the fucking point I'm trying to make. It's that kind of shit that pisses off anyone with common sense. People like yourself would love to rewrite history when it comes to the good that the U.S. has done.

The world was getting their asses handed to them by Hitler until the U.S. got involved. Do you REALLY not know that for fucks sake?

And when we did, the whole world was goddamned glad to see us coming. Except Germany and your country (who backed the Natzis).

We were welcomed as heroes. That's history, not my dumb ass opinion. The fact that you ignore that leaves me with little care for any of the rest of your so called points!

It's not my wish to insult anyone's country, even though it is done to mine on a constant basis. However, come on. You are from Hungary and you're throwing rocks at the U.S.?

I consider myself a WW2 buff, but had to look up Hungary to refresh my memory on their involvement before blindly throwing out statements (like some people).

Your country that you are so proud of backed the Germans. So congrats for joining the losing side.

You must hang your head high and proud on that one. I wouldn't even be arguing on this subject if I were you. I'd be too embarrassed to draw attention to myself. No wonder you try to belittle U.S. involvement.
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Originally Posted by Plaguedwinds707
If any of you American haters country was targeted by any kind of human rights violations you better believe we'd come to save your ass too.
Originally Posted by azdesertsnake01
As far as Africa, why has the U.S. not went to war there?...
...They are a threat to themselves only.
Originally Posted by Rudebwoy
I still think that there is no intervention if there is no self-interest involved.
Thanks for proving/supporting my point. That's all I wanted to say.




Originally Posted by azdesertsnake01
You are from Hungary and you're throwing rocks at the U.S.?
And now it is my turn to call you a narrow-minded retard.
What does my nationality have to do with anything? What would be different if I were a UK/German/Chinese/US etc citizen?
And how the heck did you come to the conclusion I was throwing rocks at the US? I even said that Im discussing foreign policy. Please point it out where EXACTLY did I say that the US is bad! This is what I've said:
Originally Posted by Rudebwoy
The US (just like ANY other nation) goes to war if there is serious material compensation of some sort.
I dont know how you interpreted it, but from the sentence above I read that going to war for self-interest is normal. Did I say that not intervening in Africa makes the US bad? No! I brought that up to support my point that the US does not go to war solely for humanitarian reasons.
I dont want to give credit? How? Where?
Where did I say that invading Iraq/Afghanistan was a bad decision? Did I say the US didnt do jackshit to free west Europe? No. I said dont act like you were alone in it.

Just calm the fuck down, and read more carefully before making an ass out of yourself.

(BTW I love how you are trying to discredit my personal opinion by saying Hungary supported the nazis... please explain how does that work exactly? I mean, by that logic I could tell you to shut the hell up, because your country advocated slavery, in fact 60 years ago there was still serious segregation. I could tell you that but it wouldnt make sense, would it?)
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First one is the best, good stuff
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The Blood is on usa's hand.you should stop messing with middle east.what a disgusting country usa
blahh blahh blahh.fuck you!!!!
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Thanks for proving/supporting my point. That's all I wanted to say...........
(BTW I love how you are trying to discredit my personal opinion by saying Hungary supported the nazis... please explain how does that work exactly? I mean, by that logic I could tell you to shut the hell up, because your country advocated slavery, in fact 60 years ago there was still serious segregation. I could tell you that but it wouldnt make sense, would it?)
How does that make sense? Good ole anger because you think the U.S. should have been invading on the eastern front on behalf of your country due to the loss of life that occurred there.

If you read your previous replies on the subject of U.S. intervention (or the lack thereof) for humanitarian reasons, it's quiet obvious what you are angry about. Hell maybe you don't even recognize it about yourself, but I consider it obvious.

Rather than going back and forth with you on this bullshit. Let me sum up what your problem is. Basically without writing a books worth of details, your country was on the verge of getting it's ass kicked by Russia. Your country sided with Hitler because he was going to war with Russia.

You're pissed off because the U.S. didn't come in to rescue your asses and we chose to attack on the western front. So you're pissed off at us because we didn't intervene on behalf of Hungary.

You believe we should have sided with Hungary and the Natzis against Russia. Does that pretty much sum it up? Don't make another dumb ass statement like "where did I say that?".

The anger you hold over the issue is obvious to anyone who carefully reads your previous replies. In fact it's quiet well spelled out in your reply dated 12-12-2011, 12:39 AM

So I guess the U.S. should have been Natzi supporters the same as Hungary because Hungary was about to get it's ass kicked?

Wake the fuck up and return to the reality that the rest of the world lives in. You may consider this an important issue because you're from Hungary the same way an African in the desert desires running water and thinks his running water is the only thing that matters in world politics.

In reality, your plight is your own and you shouldn't blame the rest of the world or any specific country because they didn't come to save your asses.

We invaded where we did, when we did and everything turned out fine. Shut the fuck up about it and stop trying to second guess history. If it had been done the way you evidently envision it because you're obviously a fucking 12 star general, the Natzi's would now control the world and we'd all be speaking German.

As far as your slavery rant, I have no fucking idea what that has to do with shit. That's not even worth addressing. It was a dumb fuck statement to make. As far as your smart ass mouth, it's easy to talk crap on here and obviously you're the type to do it. I can guarantee such bullshit would NOT fly very well in person, but you're in Hungary, so you can play the keyboard tough guy.

I wish to fall short of insulting your country because I know not all Hungarians have the same view as you. However, do you REALLY consider Hungary a relevant player on today's world stage?
<-------- That's my nicest way to say it without really getting insulting!

Stop pissing and moaning, get out of the big boys way and let us handle things! You have a right to your opinion, but no one gives a shit about your opinion except you.

As far as you saying YET AGAIN that you didn't say anything about Iraq, etc. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, not everything was directed at you. Set your ego aside.

The Iraq statement was due to the MANY U.S. haters who constantly bring it up. Sometimes making points like that can save someone from wasting our time making dumb ass statements that they are regurgitating from the news channel.

I like to debate, but I hate debating stupid points that have been beaten to death in the media.
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Jesus christ you are having serious anger problems!
Okay, let me try this one last time.

Originally Posted by Idiot
How does that make sense? Good ole anger because you think the U.S. should have been invading on the eastern front on behalf of your country due to the loss of life that occurred there.

If you read your previous replies on the subject of U.S. intervention (or the lack thereof) for humanitarian reasons, it's quiet obvious what you are angry about. Hell maybe you don't even recognize it about yourself, but I consider it obvious.
Good job, knowing how I feel and what I think asshole. You assumed wrong. I used the 1956 revolution to disprove the statement of the US going to war for humanitarian reasons. Why did I bring up that conflict specifically? For one its one that I know about. On the other hand it's setting was a good reason to intervene had the US gone to war solely for humanitarian reasons. I could've used rwanda, or more actually syria as well.
Do you get my fucking point or are you too far up your ass?

Originally Posted by idiot
Rather than going back and forth with you on this bullshit. Let me sum up what your problem is. Basically without writing a books worth of details, your country was on the verge of getting it's ass kicked by Russia. Your country sided with Hitler because he was going to war with Russia.

You're pissed off because the U.S. didn't come in to rescue your asses and we chose to attack on the western front. So you're pissed off at us because we didn't intervene on behalf of Hungary.

You believe we should have sided with Hungary and the Natzis against Russia. Does that pretty much sum it up? Don't make another dumb ass statement like "where did I say that?".
NOOOOO CHARLES! GET OUT OF MY HEAD!
Seriously? I mean seriously? And you REALLY think thats my opinion?
No. Im not pissed at the US for not intervening, it would have been a dumb fuckin choice, and Im being tired explaining that to your sorry ass.

Originally Posted by Idiot
So I guess the U.S. should have been Natzi supporters the same as Hungary because Hungary was about to get it's ass kicked?
Why do you mention it all the time, like it was something that has to do anything with our debate? Are you fuckin thick?

Originally Posted by idiot
Wake the fuck up and return to the reality that the rest of the world lives in. You may consider this an important issue because you're from Hungary the same way an African in the desert desires running water and thinks his running water is the only thing that matters in world politics.
What the fuck are you on about? Someone made a statement what any 10 year can see it's not true. I replied to that bringing up an example. How do you get from there to the statement above?

Originally Posted by idiot
In reality, your plight is your own and you shouldn't blame the rest of the world or any specific country because they didn't come to save your asses.
You are assuming. Again. And you are wrong. Again. See my points above.

Originally Posted by idiot
We invaded where we did, when we did and everything turned out fine. Shut the fuck up about it and stop trying to second guess history. If it had been done the way you evidently envision it because you're obviously a fucking 12 star general, the Natzi's would now control the world and we'd all be speaking German.
Sigh... No matter what I ACTUALLY say, you really think you are right, dont you? PLEASE DONT PUT THAT CRAP IN MY MOUTH, BECAUSE THATS NOT WHAT I THINK. How many times do I need to tell to get it into your thick fuckin skull?!

Originally Posted by Idiot
As far as your slavery rant, I have no fucking idea what that has to do with shit. That's not even worth addressing. It was a dumb fuck statement to make.
Exactly. It has NOTHING to do with our debate, or with the credibility of your opinion, just as hungary's part in ww2 doesn't have to do anything with my personal opinion and credibility. But I guess you'll go ahead, and read my mind again and tell me Im wrong and you are going to tell me what I REALLY think.

Originally Posted by idiot
As far as your smart ass mouth, it's easy to talk crap on here and obviously you're the type to do it. I can guarantee such bullshit would NOT fly very well in person, but you're in Hungary, so you can play the keyboard tough guy.
Pot. Kettle. Get my point?

Originally Posted by idiot
I wish to fall short of insulting your country because I know not all Hungarians have the same view as you. However, do you REALLY consider Hungary a relevant player on today's world stage?
<-------- That's my nicest way to say it without really getting insulting!
No, of course hungary is not a relevant player in today's world stage, but again what does that have to do with anything? Are high or something?

Originally Posted by idiot
Stop pissing and moaning, get out of the big boys way and let us handle things! You have a right to your opinion, but no one gives a shit about your opinion except you.
Now you are just flailing and lashing out blindly...


Like I said before: take a chill pill or you will get a heart attack.
Also get off your fucking high horse. Do you actually read what you write? You are not stating facts, you are trying to put words in my mouth, you claim you know what I think. Seriously?
Dumb fuckin psycho.
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I REALLY didn't want to stoop so low as to get into insults, but since you are going there....

I attempted to read your latest bullshit, but it's so goddamned incoherent that it's not readable. I made it through the first two paragraphs, but after that, I have NO IDEA what you said. So you wasted a lot of time typing.

I thought our school systems in the U.S. sucked, but at least apparently they are better than Hungary's going by your lack of education you are illustrating.

Just looking at the outline of this gibberish you wrote gives me a fucking headache. I'm sure like your previous posts, it has a bunch of pointless jabbering in it.

You're a fucking idiot and your country sux. Obviously I touched the nerve that I knew was there. Too bad your country got it's ass kicked, but man up, quit acting like a bitch.

You would NEVER say the shit to my face that you are saying on here. If you did, you get your ass kicked quicker than a Russian soldier beating on a Hungarian bitch like yourself. And to think once upon a time the Huns were your ancestors. Now the American Girl Scouts could kick your asses. There! You want a cut, there you have it!

You have NO IDEA who the fuck you're talking to here.
You're a pussy as is your country. Your countries last glory days of being in the headlines was 70 years ago. You hate it that the U.S. and other countries such as Britain, Russia, etc. are in the headlines even in your country daily. Yet your own country, most people can't even point to on a fucking map!

You have penis envy because Americans have bigger dicks than you. So fuck off. Conversation OVER!

To anyone else reading this, I apologize for losing my temper. To Rudebwoy, go fuck your mother!
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Originally Posted by Idiot
Blah blah blah Im fucking right and even logic cant stop me blah blah blah


Its not my fault you are so self-righteous you cant debate. You are like a religious fanatic who goes "LALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU" when someone tries to reason.
My post is incoherent? Its you who debate irrelevant bullshit/make wrong assumptions/twist the words written down.
Are you trying to intimidate me on the internet, how I wouldnt say that to your face? How old are you? 14?
About your rant on Hungary: again irrelevant, but Im glad it made you feel better.

Now, since you have an enormous dick, please for everyone's sake, go and fuck yourself with it.


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