[orionlover69]

The Best. Unimaginable pain. Truly a sight. Wow. Just, wow!

[fuck-iluminati]

Pure savagery

[OhJstFkOffAlrdy]

Originally Posted by vanillabuzz ↗

No offense but Breitbart is not exactly a reliable source. That being said, that last paragraph you wrote is spot on. So very true. I'm Mexican, living in Mexico City. I have friends and family who often visit Acapulco (in Guerrero). I have friends who live in the northern states. The reality here is very different than what they say in the US news. Even cartels donated supplies to help the people here in the city after the earthquake last September. Now, I'm not saying they are good, this video proves just how vicious they are, but it's not as black and white as it seems on the outside. Again, that being said, I agree with you about the monstrous human nature and how nobody is safe from it. I don't like humans, so perhaps that's why I'm looking at this entire subject with a bit less sympathy than others do.

That makes little difference. Hamas does the same thing, and they were elected to a majority in the Palestinian parliament. But that doesn't negate the sheer barbarity of what they've done. If anything, it's of even smaller consolation when the cartels do it, because the cartels have no "higher-minded" ideology beyond money and power.

This isn't order or authority we're seeing. I may be American, but you don't have do be able to trace your lineage back to the Aztecs to see that what's going on down there is what happens when integrity of official authority is severely lacking. Would you be apt to call the Zetas patriots or champions of their country and their fellow Mexicans knowing their origins?

I'm aware of how the cartels attempt to supplant justice and authority with their own brand, but that's just part of the business model and the people have no say in the rule under which they live. A few pallets of bottled water and the occasional child molester diassembled and left to rot in the street don't justify such disproportionate and indiscriminant violence.

I look at it from a morally absolute perspective, but relative to the victim at least. High-up traffickers who run things and order hits and kidnappings and the sicarios themselves may have compounded enough sins to have earned gruesome deaths, but cab drivers and informants conscripted at gunpoint most certainly have not. You can't just hand-wave it away by saying that a person should have chosen the death that kept their loved ones from being harmed because that's not how normal people think when they're facing death.

[sil3nce]

Anyone else wonder if they grabbed the mom or daughter and filmed their rape, torture, and murder, too? Cartels would instill even more fear and excitement in the populace if they posted sexually violent murder videos online.

[fapfapfap]

Originally Posted by vanillabuzz ↗

Sorry (not) to burst the bubble of the right-wing psychos here.

That doesn't make any sense. 90% of the time it's our resident "right-wing psychos" who are the first ones to point out that the victims are probably not innocent.

For someone who's trying to (correctly) portray the situation as less black and white than everyone else does, it's too bad you're forcing a black and white paradigm on it just to sound righteous.

[vanillabuzz]

Originally Posted by Metal Mike ↗

That makes little difference. Hamas does the same thing, and they were elected to a majority in the Palestinian parliament. But that doesn't negate the sheer barbarity of what they've done. If anything, it's of even smaller consolation when the cartels do it, because the cartels have no "higher-minded" ideology beyond money and power.

This isn't order or authority we're seeing. I may be American, but you don't have do be able to trace your lineage back to the Aztecs to see that what's going on down there is what happens when integrity of official authority is severely lacking. Would you be apt to call the Zetas patriots or champions of their country and their fellow Mexicans knowing their origins?

I'm aware of how the cartels attempt to supplant justice and authority with their own brand, but that's just part of the business model and the people have no say in the rule under which they live. A few pallets of bottled water and the occasional child molester diassembled and left to rot in the street don't justify such disproportionate and indiscriminant violence.

I look at it from a morally absolute perspective, but relative to the victim at least. High-up traffickers who run things and order hits and kidnappings and the sicarios themselves may have compounded enough sins to have earned gruesome deaths, but cab drivers and informants conscripted at gunpoint most certainly have not. You can't just hand-wave it away by saying that a person should have chosen the death that kept their loved ones from being harmed because that's not how normal people think when they're facing death.

Okay, you clearly didn't even try to comprehend my response, particularly judging by that first paragraph. Then you went from Hamas to Aztecs to Zetas without any of it making an ounce of sense. I completely agreed on the brutality of the cartels and human nature in general, but as an actual Mexican somehow my opinion is always seen as incorrect. I'm sorry but I feel like it's useless to talk to people on the other side of the border who know fuck all about a country they love to criticize, so I'm not even going to bother anymore, I guess.

Originally Posted by fapfapfap ↗

That doesn't make any sense. 90% of the time it's our resident "right-wing psychos" who are the first ones to point out that the victims are probably not innocent.

For someone who's trying to (correctly) portray the situation as less black and white than everyone else does, it's too bad you're forcing a black and white paradigm on it just to sound righteous.

You went from comparing people involved with the cartels to rape victims (if that's not close-minded and black and white, I don't know what is) and now you're trying to play concerned citizen of the world. whatthefuckever

[eb54]

Well, I think I'm done coming here. What's left to see after this? Game over man. Game over.

[Hunter1031]

Just in case no one posted the back story, which makes this even worse.
The older guy was a police officer and the kid was his young son. Evidently the police officer would not be paid off and was doing his job so they kidnapped him and his son.
I’ve seen a lot of gore.... but this video was hard for me to watch after I knew the story in its entirety. Poor fucking kid.

[Pobodies Nerfect]

This is one of the most brutal videos I've ever seen! It's crazy to think that this probably happens more than we know about.

[LERK]

Originally Posted by Hunter1031 ↗

Just in case no one posted the back story, which makes this even worse.
The older guy was a police officer and the kid was his young son. Evidently the police officer would not be paid off and was doing his job so they kidnapped him and his son.
I’ve seen a lot of gore.... but this video was hard for me to watch after I knew the story in its entirety. Poor fucking kid.

where did you find story?