2012 Shooting of Milton Hall

[Hanze]

The video, captured by a police car dashboard camera, appears to show six police officers gunning down Milton Hall, 49, in broad daylight, during a tense confrontation in a Saginaw parking lot. Hall was armed with a penknife and appears to be standing at least several yards from the nearest officer. Officers fired at him more than 45 times.

The American Civil Liberties Union obtained the video from lawyers for Hall’s family. It provides a closer and more detailed view of the killing than the handheld civilian video that was shown on CNN shortly after the shooting.

The new video and older handheld footage are both attached here.

[jerzpilot]

really? so that's the policy shoot to kill, not to immobilize?

[imbok]

Well that seemed a bit excessive.

[ocrage]

he had a knife in his hand and started to go towards them, yeah thats pretty standard.

why is it SO fucking hard to grasp the concept of "don't do stupid shit when a cop has his gun drawn" to most people?

inc all the fuck the police ignorant ass posts.

[docfr8]

if the perp would have dropped his weapon, he'd probably still be alive, but he chose to do otherwise resulting in his demise..

[deanmine]

simple mathematics really. You divide the number of cops keeping a community safe. (8) by the number of shots fired. (49) . now take that number and shove it up the deads man ass and u get an answer equal to the number of people that shouldnt hold weapons to a cop!.. like i said, simple mathamatics!

[spyderguard]

One of the cops should have shot the pen knife out of the dude's hand - that cop would have been an instant celebrity.

[spyderguard]

Originally Posted by deanmine

simple mathematics really. You divide the number of cops keeping a community safe. (8) by the number of shots fired. (49) . now take that number and shove it up the deads man ass and u get an answer equal to the number of people that shouldnt hold weapons to a cop!.. like i said, simple mathamatics!

I'm sorry, I can't solve this math problem. They never taught me in math class how to shove a number up a dead man's ass.

[pragmatist]

Feel a tad sorry for him, was he a bit backwards possibly??

[30564U]

Originally Posted by jerzpilot

really? so that's the policy shoot to kill, not to immobilize?

Jesus Christ...how did this shit ever get started? TV? Newspapers? Shoot to kill, shoot to immobilize, shoot to wound? Let's go over this one more fuck'n time...the phrase/policy is "SHOOT TO STOP THE THREAT." police officers in the United States and Canada are only trained to shoot to stop the threat. When the threat has been stopped...you stop shooting. Until the threat stops (whatever it is that is perceived by the officers as the threat) you can keep shooting...and you should. The number of bullets fired doesn't matter at all to the investigation or for any future lawsuits...there is no number of bullets defined as excessive. Get off the bullet issue and concentrate on the reasons for the shooting.