[gritz1437]

Plus even with the best birthcontrol, the pulling out, or even with a condom, it only takes one gold medal olympian spermy...

[ILDiva]

Originally Posted by laroque13 ↗

Considering the fact that the number of natural or "spontaneous" abortions (miscarriages) far outnumber medical abortions, I love how the religious freaks call people who perform or who get abortions murderers. If their god does exist, then he would be the busiest abortionist around.

As far as my opinion goes, I'm not saying I'd never get one if there was something seriously wrong with the baby or if I were raped or the pregnancy had a high probability of killing me for some reason. However, I do agree that using it for birth control is extremely stupid, but I wouldn't ban it because if that happens, you're going to have all kinds of dead teenage girls and women from back alley or do it yourself abortions.

I would also NEVER carry a child that was the outcome of a rape. Why? Because there's a great probability that there could be something extremely wrong with the rapist mentally in order to rape someone (yes, I know, it could also be a bad upbringing, but lots of people with bad upbringings don't become rapists or murderers) and that could be passed on to the child. Therefore I wouldn't saddle someone with a baby that could potentially have such an issue so adoption would not be an option in that case either. I just couldn't take the chance.

I understand your reasoning in some ways. That said... there is a big difference in miscarriage, and abortion. I had a miscarriage, and there is no way shape or form that I chose for my babie's life to end. I was utterly devestated. Another thing.... a medical DNC isn't an abortion either. It's surgery to remove the byproducts of a miscarriage so the woman doesn't get an infection, and die. Most of the OBGYN's don't preform abortions because it goes against their moral and ethical code. Like I said earlier..... I don't condeme people for their choice... I just don't agree with it.

Oh.... and on the religous part of your post..... everything in life happens for a reason. We learn from everything we expierience...good or bad...God or no God.

[laroque13]

I understand what you're saying too, (and btw, I suffered a miscarriage with my first pregnancy too, and quite late for one to happen, almost 4 months along) but I think you kind of missed my point on the religious thing. My problem is with the real religious nutjobs that yell at people and stand by the road holding signs and some that even threaten and/or injure/kill abortion providers...IF god exists and is in control of everything, then HE CAUSES babies to die via miscarriage, thus he would be guilty of the exact same thing that these people are against and citing god as the reason they are against it. And by religious people's own logic, IF god exists and controls all, then he set into motion the circumstances that led the woman to get an abortion and IF he is omnipotent, then he knew she would get an abortion from the beginning. Thus, getting an abortion would also be part of "god's plan" so why in the world are the religious people protesting it?

I agree in part with your statement that we learn from everything we experience, however, that doesn't mean it necessarily happens "for a reason." Just because we learn from it does not mean that it happened for that reason. It's just a fact that we learn from experiences. My experiences have led me to the conclusion that the "god" of all world religions is bunk, thus I am an agnostic. I'd also say that looking at a lot of the video and pictures on this site, it seems kind of silly afterwards to believe that there is some god looking out for us. Surely if someone's death was part of his "plan" he could have led them to die in a less painful or gruesome way and still carried out his "plan". I sure would love to learn from experience what it's like to be a multimillionaire, but that's unlikely to happen. LOL!

[KRANK]

Of course its murder...If you call it a fetus,its ok to kill it though.Abortion is just the cowards way out...much easier than taking personal responsibilty. OK...flame me now ;)

[theendisnow]

Originally Posted by laroque13 ↗

I understand what you're saying too, (and btw, I suffered a miscarriage with my first pregnancy too, and quite late for one to happen, almost 4 months along) but I think you kind of missed my point on the religious thing. My problem is with the real religious nutjobs that yell at people and stand by the road holding signs and some that even threaten and/or injure/kill abortion providers...IF god exists and is in control of everything, then HE CAUSES babies to die via miscarriage, thus he would be guilty of the exact same thing that these people are against and citing god as the reason they are against it. And by religious people's own logic, IF god exists and controls all, then he set into motion the circumstances that led the woman to get an abortion and IF he is omnipotent, then he knew she would get an abortion from the beginning. Thus, getting an abortion would also be part of "god's plan" so why in the world are the religious people protesting it?

I agree in part with your statement that we learn from everything we experience, however, that doesn't mean it necessarily happens "for a reason." Just because we learn from it does not mean that it happened for that reason. It's just a fact that we learn from experiences. My experiences have led me to the conclusion that the "god" of all world religions is bunk, thus I am an agnostic. I'd also say that looking at a lot of the video and pictures on this site, it seems kind of silly afterwards to believe that there is some god looking out for us. Surely if someone's death was part of his "plan" he could have led them to die in a less painful or gruesome way and still carried out his "plan". I sure would love to learn from experience what it's like to be a multimillionaire, but that's unlikely to happen. LOL!

Good points But..hay these kind of sites are really not for "christians" to be viewing becuz of what the Bible says about the eyes being the window to the soul or not exactly like that but you no what i mean, in essence your mind is a camera and it "takes Pictures" itself thus u rememeber certain things more clearly, like u can close yur eyes and still see things plainly..but as a christian who has visited this site..i know Im a hypocrite..i think its a good venue to see that really the way you die DOES NOT determine the way a person lived. usually "the nicest people" get killed or kidnapped and raped and murdereed ect...but as far as abortion is concerned if when you were in your mothers womb were asked "would like to see life?" would u choose to say no thanks..point being if the baby could choose they would certainly choose to live! spontaneous abortions are usually a result of a medical anomoly, like the baby usually has a defect in its development thus the body rids it as if it is a "foreign body" it the way your body is made, preventing for example a stillborn ect..i think i would rather the God take the unborn via miscarriage than to go to term and lose it then..thats just a viewpoint,, i defintely am not a expert but a PRO LIFE supporter especially seeing this site!! who wouldnt be PRO LIFE, seems like death..sucks...p.s. I LUUUUUV me some JESUS!!!

[theendisnow]

I Luv Jesus..but i still may want to kick someones ass now and again..sorry!!!

[chaseU]

awwwww poor babas

[FARQ]

For all those who have abortion/s should have their cords tied so they wouldn't have to go through all that TRAUMA again! Cause you know it's all the about the dummies oops I mean mummies! shit I mean the females. Nevermind about the babies or fetuses or whateva you wanna call them.

[Viking64]

I was an abortion.

[Blackdaddy]

Blackdaddy say, alls youse uneducated niggras gots ta regulate. if'in youse alls upset about dese pics, what the fuck does your uneducated, easily manipulated asses say to in vitro? for every successful fertilized egg, there are two, three more. most are thrown out or you get fucks like octo-mom or "john and kate plus there money makers". motherfuckers come ta da table, youse better know your roll. tru dat