[GiJoe7898]

Yes, this is the treatment given to illegals by the US Border Patrol, cousin to I.C.E., which liberals want to disband. Liberals constantly disparage the US, yet conveniently ignore the compassion we show to these illegals. Nowhere in this story did it report that the hospitalized were transferred back across the border. US TAX DOLLARS pay for this.

Build the damn Wall!

[HeyJealousy]

Originally Posted by GiJoe7898 ↗

Yes, this is the treatment given to illegals by the US Border Patrol, cousin to I.C.E., which liberals want to disband. Liberals constantly disparage the US, yet conveniently ignore the compassion we show to these illegals. Nowhere in this story did it report that the hospitalized were transferred back across the border. US TAX DOLLARS pay for this.

Build the damn Wall!

Trump's ICE is a holdover from the Bush & Obama administrations, and it's in dire need of reform.

This isn't about border security or the lack thereof, this is about mismanagement, corruption and authoritarianism which is to be expected from the Federal Government nowadays (thanks, Reagan). But that's just, like, my opinion, man.

You have the right to express your opinion, so I gave you mine. If you want to politicize this tragedy, that's your Constitutional right. We all have our opinions and you know what they say about "opinions". Like asscheeks, everybody has one.

[GlowingGhoul]

Originally Posted by HeyJealousy ↗

This isn't about border security or the lack thereof, this is about mismanagement, corruption and authoritarianism which is to be expected from the Federal Government nowadays (thanks, Reagan). But that's just, like, my opinion, man.

LOL, "this isn't about border security". You would've been right if you stopped there.

It's about a cabal of Democrats seeking to import millions of unskilled, largely illiterate (in Spanish), desperately poor people who will gladly vote for leftists with the promise of more generous government handouts, just as they do back home.

It's about the corrupt businesses who benefit from cheap, illegal labor and the wage depressing effect millions of additional workers create.

It's about the wealthy, benefitting from cheap household help, while the social and economic costs are borne by the working class communities illegals infest.

It's about the Catholic Church, refilling their pews and coffers with desperate, poor people grasping for any promise of hope.

So thanks. Thanks for pissing on the low skilled Americans forced to compete with illegals. Thanks for the plaguing working class communities with violence, a diminished quality of life, and the privilege of paying for the education of 20 year old illegal alien invaders sitting in 9th grade classrooms via their higher taxes.

But hey, fuck this country. It doesn't have the right to control it's own borders, right?

[HeyJealousy]

Originally Posted by GlowingGhoul ↗

LOL, "this isn't about border security". You would've been right if you stopped there.

It's about a cabal of Democrats seeking to import millions of unskilled, largely illiterate (in Spanish), desperately poor people who will gladly vote for leftists with the promise of more generous government handouts, just as they do back home.

It's about the corrupt businesses who benefit from cheap, illegal labor and the wage depressing effect millions of additional workers create.

It's about the wealthy, benefitting from cheap household help, while the social and economic costs are borne by the working class communities illegals infest.

It's about the Catholic Church, refilling their pews and coffers with desperate, poor people grasping for any promise of hope.

So thanks. Thanks for pissing on the low skilled Americans forced to compete with illegals. Thanks for the plaguing working class communities with violence, a diminished quality of life, and the privilege of paying for the education of 20 year old illegal alien invaders sitting in 9th grade classrooms via their higher taxes.

But hey, fuck this country. It doesn't have the right to control it's own borders, right?

You stressed some valid points, BUT you almost lost me when you tried to spin this into a “Democrat conspiracy”.

We have an administration that is corrupt from the top down, run by Republicans, and yet you refuse to admit that corruption is bipartisan.
I am not against “border control”.

But the ICE policy is a sheer violation of human rights and that’s that. It’s shifting the blame AWAY from greedy corporations and politicians, and TOWARDS the children of desperate illegals. There’s nothing more to it than that.

[HeyJealousy]

“It's about the wealthy, benefitting from cheap household help, while the social and economic costs are borne by the working class communities illegals infest.”

This is true. But this is also why you mainstream right-wingers are inconsistent. While leftists and moderates alike have been railing against economic inequality, you Republicans and right-wingers have smeared the rest of us as “socialists”, “bleeding-hearts”, “hippies”, “non-conformists”, “strange people”, “Walmart Haters”, etc.
You were sucking the hand that chokes you until very recently. And don’t try to twist your way around this and say you haven’t.

[GlowingGhoul]

Originally Posted by HeyJealousy ↗

You stressed some valid points, BUT you almost lost me when you tried to spin this into a “Democrat conspiracy”.

We have an administration that is corrupt from the top down, run by Republicans, and yet you refuse to admit that corruption is bipartisan.
I am not against “border control”.

But the ICE policy is a sheer violation of human rights and that’s that. It’s shifting the blame AWAY from greedy corporations and politicians, and TOWARDS the children of desperate illegals. There’s nothing more to it than that.

I didn't say "conspiracy", so you begin with a straw argument.

Illegals can't vote (yet). Are you going to assert that the Democrats unwavering support for illegal immigration, fervent opposition to deporting illegals, and endless support and protection efforts for illegals are based out of a moral imperative? That, despite losing votes over their support for illegals, they continue down this road for some reason OTHER than a path to power? Democrats are just so overflowing with goodness, they just have to support illegal aliens, lol.

Shifting blame? Violation of basic human rights? Look you fucking retard, we have the RIGHT to deport those who violate our borders. Those fucking 'children' WERE DETAINED WITH THEIR PARENTS APPREHENDED AT THE BORDER for decades, until a left wing group sued to mandate children not be detained with adults, EVEN THEIR PARENTS! The Obama administration, using the 'sue and settle' tactic of 'inviting' an activist group to sue the government so they could then settle with terms friendly to their allied group. Things they couldn't do legislatively. So the only choice the current administration has when dealing with illegals that smuggle children is to detain them separately while processing their case, or release them into the country where 90% never show up to court. This was an intentional strategy, to force us into a position of having to aid and abet the illegals coming here, as long as they drag children with them. Again, why are Democrats so obsessed with this? Demographic replacement as a means to electoral success.

Is that what you demand the Trump administration do, release every illegal that arrives with 'children'? I'm asking a simple, clear question. You want illegals that sneak across the border with children to be released into the country, right? There is no alternative, according to you.

[HeyJealousy]

Originally Posted by GlowingGhoul ↗

I didn't say "conspiracy", so you begin with a straw argument.

Illegals can't vote (yet). Are you going to assert that the Democrats unwavering support for illegal immigration, fervent opposition to deporting illegals, and endless support and protection efforts for illegals are based out of a moral imperative? That, despite losing votes over their support for illegals, they continue down this road for some reason OTHER than a path to power? Democrats are just so overflowing with goodness, they just have to support illegal aliens, lol.

Shifting blame? Violation of basic human rights? Look you fucking retard, we have the RIGHT to deport those who violate our borders. Those fucking 'children' WERE DETAINED WITH THEIR PARENTS APPREHENDED AT THE BORDER for decades, until a left wing group sued to mandate children not be detained with adults, EVEN THEIR PARENTS! The Obama administration, using the 'sue and settle' tactic of 'inviting' an activist group to sue the government so they could then settle with terms friendly to their allied group. Things they couldn't do legislatively. So the only choice the current administration has when dealing with illegals that smuggle children is to detain them separately while processing their case, or release them into the country where 90% never show up to court. This was an intentional strategy, to force us into a position of having to aid and abet the illegals coming here, as long as they drag children with them. Again, why are Democrats so obsessed with this? Demographic replacement as a means to electoral success.

Is that what you demand the Trump administration do, release every illegal that arrives with 'children'? I'm asking a simple, clear question. You want illegals that sneak across the border with children to be released into the country, right? There is no alternative, according to you.

Save the wall of text for the Politics section.

The “border separation” policy is deeply engrained by now. More illegals were deported during the Obama Admin than any other. You oughta thank him for perpetuating right-wing neoconservative policy on almost everything (sans LGBT rights). I’m not thanking the Dems because they’re not “progressive” enough for my liking. Too soft.

[LERK]

poor bastards

[mindgames17]

when immigrants are killed....people in the US usually don't care....no one looks for them...they have no family here....they aren't missed sadly. someone in nyc was killing homeless people...same thing. no one looks for them...or they are expected to be dead or missing

[HeyJealousy]

Originally Posted by mindgames17 ↗

when immigrants are killed....people in the US usually don't care....no one looks for them...they have no family here....they aren't missed sadly. someone in nyc was killing homeless people...same thing. no one looks for them...or they are expected to be dead or missing

Because too many Americans are narcissistic, materialistic, privileged and ungrateful sociopaths.
Still better than Brazil though.