[OmniJackal]

so they cut off our heads slowly with dull knives and yer all pissed off that someone had their pic taken with a corpse? you're fucking morons. you need to get your morality switches checked. as far as im concerned if this pisses you off you're no better than the towel heads. gtfo of my country.

[Airbornemama]

I'm not sorry he's dead at all!!!at least we know that one more terrorist can't do the kind of damage they all would love to do too us given the opportunity!!!!fuck them all!!!

[fritter]

Originally Posted by Black Knight ↗

I am in the minority here but f the terrorists and prisoners. They are there for a reason and if knocking them around a little prevents another 9/11 I have no problem with it.

What a bunch of Liberals this nation (US) has become. The terrorists behead innocent American and British journalists live and no one complains but when we have troops smiling with terrorist prisoners there is outrage?

Come on people. These terrorist assholes would just as soon walk into your childrens school with a backpack bomb that care about your concern or disgust for their prisoners treatment.

I didn't see nearly the outrage when Daniel Pearl was slaughtered on video while his pregnant wife pleaded for his safety.

[TxWader]

If torturing Habibi saves one life it's worth it to me.

[eatonbeavers]

This was not a good thing.
For years the U.S. Military was know for being fearious fighters and merciful victors. Our men and Women in uniform were expected to behave as the professionals they were trained to be.
And up untill George Bush II this was the case .
Under Bushes reign things were allowed to happen which will cause shame for our men and women in uniform and the Citizens of this country for years to come.
Yes I agree the actions of our enemies have been horibble even unexcuseable but as a people as a country as a Military we have always tried to do the honorable thing .
As I said above we fight as fearious warriors but when we win we win as Merciful victors.
I think the soldiers in these pictures and there comanding officers some how lost track of those values and as a nation we have and will suffer a certian amount of disgrace because of their actions.
I would ask you all to remember that the actions of the soldiers in these images repesent the actions of a very few.
The majority of the men and women in the U.S. Military are not like this .
They are highly trained professionals who know what is expected of them and behave as such.
I am very proud of all of the troops over there right now weather they be U.S. forces or those of our NATO allies.
My only personel wish is we end the war as soon as possible and get them all back home to there families safe and in one piece.

[Black Knight]

Originally Posted by eatonbeavers ↗

This was not a good thing.
For years the U.S. Military was know for being fearious fighters and merciful victors. Our men and Women in uniform were expected to behave as the professionals they were trained to be.
And up untill George Bush II this was the case .
Under Bushes reign things were allowed to happen which will cause shame for our men and women in uniform and the Citizens of this country for years to come.
Yes I agree the actions of our enemies have been horibble even unexcuseable but as a people as a country as a Military we have always tried to do the honorable thing .
As I said above we fight as fearious warriors but when we win we win as Merciful victors.
I think the soldiers in these pictures and there comanding officers some how lost track of those values and as a nation we have and will suffer a certian amount of disgrace because of their actions.
I would ask you all to remember that the actions of the soldiers in these images repesent the actions of a very few.
The majority of the men and women in the U.S. Military are not like this .
They are highly trained professionals who know what is expected of them and behave as such.
I am very proud of all of the troops over there right now weather they be U.S. forces or those of our NATO allies.
My only personel wish is we end the war as soon as possible and get them all back home to there families safe and in one piece.

You make a lot of good points eaton but war has changed over the years. When I was in the military I would imagine the troops being business like but the enemy would also follow some sense of decency.

The enemy in this case is cowardly religious zealots who hate the US and all we stand for. An enemy that would hide amongst women and children to save their own ass and then consider it honorable to blow themselves up if it takes troops with us.

In this type of war the only way to truly beat them is to show brute force and no remorse. Part of our issue is that we have been fighting too nice a war. While I would hate to see civilian casualties, it is war and they happen.

Again a soldier smiling with a thumbs up with a dead enemy is far less worse then an innocent US or Brit journalist being beheaded. They aren't even military.

[Lambiesinclair]

[RReaper]

Originally Posted by Black Knight ↗

I am in the minority here but f the terrorists and prisoners. They are there for a reason and if knocking them around a little prevents another 9/11 I have no problem with it.

I agree to a point with you that POW's are not normally treated to a lavish holiday camp away from the war , But with all the Facts and evidence that is now freely available perhaps you should look at your own country and the cause for 9/11 .
Side note , it was 9/12 where I come from

[Pelle]

I love "posing with dead bodies" pics! someone should make a compilation thread about that

[eatonbeavers]

Black Knight.
Let me start by thanking you for your service to our country and you respectful reply to my post.
You too have made some excellent points which belive it or not I also agree with.
My comments about the dishonor caused to our men and women in the Milatary were souly base on and related to the incidents which occured at the Abu grey prison camp where I suspect these images came from.
What happened there was wrong and reflected badly on us.
Once an enemy combatant is a prisoner or as here a dead body.
Our men and women need to behave as the professionals you and I know they were trained and expected to be.
This is not what happened here.
Now where I think you are absolutely right is about how a sucessful war is fought.
First off going to war should be your last option.
However once a situation has reached the point where the decission is made and you are on the field of battle you need to fight like it is a street fight.
The only rule being that your forces are the ones who walk off the field of battle alive.
Unfortunately you are also right the attitude or inerstrength needed to fight in this manner appears to have been lost by those in washington and the media.
I think this change started when we were in Viet Nam.
That was were you first started to see the news media reporting on civilian deaths and collateral damge.
what those same news media were not reporting then and most likely are not reporting now is how in a gurellia war the enemmy does just as you have said they blend in .
There was a saying in Viet Nam and it proved to be very ture .
The thing which determined if a local was south veitmanesse or NVC was who was paying better that day sad but true.
So based on the fact which we both agree on, which is if you are going to fight a war fight a total was and get it over with .
What do you think the chances are that Obama or anyone else in washington right now is going to have the balls to launch another Operation Torch light or approve carpet bombing as was done in Nam.
My bet is out of all the politicians who got us in to this mess not a one of them has the balls to give the order to allow our men and women to trully do what needs to be done to bring this to an end.
Because of this lack of Balls just as in Veit Nam the war will drag on costing far more lifes than if we would have just fought the damn thing all out and got it over with.
But we both know thats not going to happen .
It is because of this that now I just wish we could find a quick end to this mess and get our men and women home and out of harmes way.
You are right though Sir once a nation make the decision to go to war they must go in to it planing to fight it as a total war.
To do anything else is pure folly.

P.S. I apologize to all of you on this thread I normally check my policital views at the door.
These kind of posts from me will be few and far between.
Thank you