[DiamondSmiles]

I hate Charles Ng! He is so arrogant on interviews and he killed babies! He should be castrated and burnt alive. At least Leonard Lake had enough class to kill himself!

[PauloPeter]

Originally Posted by *Ragdoll_Cutie* ↗

Hmmm i wonder where these snuff movies went an if they are floating around cyber space somewhere....

i posted an edited part of what looks like an into what it does look like alot of people got personal snuff videos that he sold. i wonder if they were charged.

[Cumulonimbus]

Great post

[PauloPeter]

Originally Posted by diamondsmiles ↗

I hate Charles Ng! He is so arrogant on interviews and he killed babies! He should be castrated and burnt alive. At least Leonard Lake had enough class to kill himself!

murder, castration, and combustion are all too good for these men- whats a solid punishment for multiple tortures & murders??

[LadyNightmare]

Good post! I think that in the name of freaks everywhere these two are the top of the list. This case actually disturbed me when it first hit the news. I have seen my share of gore and sick twisted fucks, but these guys take the cake. Good to know they aren't any more trouble, but wish the first one had not taken his own life like the chicken shit coward he was.

[Pogrom]

These guys are definitely primo in the world of the fucked up! I bet the cuddled at night too!

[PauloPeter]

Originally Posted by Wage ↗

If someone could rip and embed this into the OP I'd appreciate it. A camcorder video of a digital video (fuck whoever uploads shit like this to keep their stuff "rare"), but better than nothing:



Also, according to Snopes there is no actual footage of either Lake or Ng murdering their victims, only two tapes that show other exchanges between two female victims.
See: http://www.snopes.com/horrors/madmen/snuff.asp

I'm no expert on this case, just putting out what information I've found while reading up on it this morning.

i love how different crime books very in information, ive noticed this aswell in my collection.
you got no actual footage of any death?

why would they feed is such misinformation? or disinformation.

i guess its down to what you want to believe, do you think these men capable of building a death bunker and capturing over 10 victims wouldnt film their atrocities?

the video itself that i posted and you reposted, you can clearly see the man's brain is fucked,. and that he is certainly capable of filming such atrocities,..

why wouldnt he if he wasnt getting requests via internet through snuffsex sites & being paid for it?

[PauloPeter]

i seriously believe a majority of the information we read on serial killers is locked away.. and that all the books and crap we look on for information is only a peice.

ok here i found more information from multiple books;

when police searched lakes home they found that the video equipment had been used to make a porn films showing women stripped before being raped and tortured. the two men in the films were both leonard lake and charles NG.

dont see how our information could collide like this but here is another peice id like to show you;

officers prepared to raid lakes home in blue mountain road in rural wooded wisleyville. from outside it seemed idyllic but what they were to find inside would turn the stomachs of the toughest of cops who, untill then, had thought they had seen it all. they had stumbled upon a chamber of horrors; a den of lust, torture, and agoniszing death. leonard lake, who had died a few hours before his 39th birthday, had kidnapped, raped, tortured, killed, and mutilated atleast 30 people. and he had faithfully recorded the gruesome deaths of moth of them in diaries, photographs, and on film.there were also pictures adorning the walls of naked and semi-clad women. some of the pictures appeared to be of newly dead corpses, their faces twisted in pain.

the worst was revealed in lakes own video library. shocked police who viewed the films took it in turns to leave the room as one after the other became sickekened by what he saw.

i even have discriptions of certain film clips and other details from the bunker if its worth posting. ive actually got discrpitions that take place over days of torture. youre telling me they took pictures/videos but none exist? come on dude.

[nasal avenger]

Please do.

[PauloPeter]

Originally Posted by nasal avenger ↗

Please do.

one film labeled only 'M Ladies Kathy/Brenda" opened with a young woman, hands cuffed behind her back, sitting on a chair in the cabin. a menacing disembodied voice off-camera tells her : "mike owes us and he cant pay. we're going to give you a choice, kathy. you can cooperate and in approximately 30 days we'll either drug you or blindfold you and let you go somewher in the city. if you dont co-operate, we'll put a bullet in your head and bury you some place. no witnesses. while youre here, youll wash for us, youll clean for us, you;ll fuck for us. thats your choice. its not much of a choice unless you have a deathwish. lake, heavy set, bearded and balding, then comesinto view to put leg irons on kathy. 'my name you dontknow' he tells her, then adds "it is charlie". as he speaks these words, another person enters the frame. it is Ng the man who inadvertently set the investigation in motion with his bungled attempt to steal a 75 $ vice. Lake removes the handcuffs and orders kathy to strip. the woman, later identified as missing person kathy allen, removes the handcufs and orders kathy to strip. the woman removes her outer clothes and her bra, but is reluctant to take off her panties untill Ng points to the gun on the table. finally, shaking and crying, she tstrips naked and is sent to take a shower with Ng.
a later scene in the video has kathy strapped, still naked to a bed. it is four days later and lake is threatening her as he takes pornographic photographs. he tells her that mike (her boyfriend) is now dead, and soon it will be her turn. the scene shifts back to the cabin, wherea young woman called brenda sits shackled in a chair as kathy did before her. beside brenda, holdinga vicious looking nife, stands Ng. as lake gives brenda the same instructions he gave kathy, Ng uses the knife to cut away brenda's blouse this time though the threats carry more menace. lake tells brenda that her baby has been given to a family in fresno. she becomes hysterical and begs for the return of the child. "why do you guys do this?" she asks plaintively. "we dont like you" says lake. as Ng removes the shreds of her blouse she pleads; "dont cut my bra off." "nothing is yours now," says lake. "give me back my baby, ill do anything you want" "You will do anything we want anyway" Ng slowly cuts away the womans bra. at last the sicken tape comes to an end.
it was not the only film police had to sweat through as their rage and frustration mounted. there was a collection of films depicting all manner of ritual tortures, raped, and degrading sex acts, many of them culminated in the horror of real on screen murder.

and now im just repeating myself.