[Lambiesinclair]

who cares

[ironspunky]

A man was killed because of his sexual orientation which is a hate crime to the fullest degree.

[runner736]

Originally Posted by philovan ↗

Indeed. And you are just as dead whether they call it a "hate crime" or not. I don't know what good it does to invent labels like that - murder is murder.

I think the fact you make such a statement suggests you do not understand the issue and should probably do a little research about bias and the behaviours is creates.

[Davis916]

Originally Posted by philovan ↗

Indeed. And you are just as dead whether they call it a "hate crime" or not. I don't know what good it does to invent labels like that - murder is murder.

Hate crimes stop perverted freaks from singling out on group. Hate Crime convictions save lives. I am sure you would be protected under the group I like to call idiots. We are saving your life.

[BIG DAWG]

The term hate crime puts a motive on the the homicide which in turn enables a harsher penalty. Harsher penalties for hate crimes are supposed to be good deterrent.

[kilyurselph]

Originally Posted by slyksleevemuckyey ↗

Hate crime, in my understanding, is when you commit a crime against somebody because of their lifestyle or skin colour, or beliefs.

Pretty much. As long as that lifestyle, skin color and beliefs aren't white, Christian or straight, of course. Liberalism 101

[genericname79]

Originally Posted by philovan ↗

Indeed. And you are just as dead whether they call it a "hate crime" or not.

Using that logic, there would be no distinction between manslaughter and murder because, well, the end result is the same...someone is dead. But the law distinguishes a premeditated murder from a heat-of-passion killing.

Criminal law concerns itself with the state of mind of the offender because society views deliberate, malicious acts as more morally blameworthy. Hate crime legislation says that crime motivated solely by hatred against a certain group deserves more serious punishment. This is arguable, but I don't think its a bizarre concept.

[Eddy Haskell]

Originally Posted by philovan ↗

Indeed. And you are just as dead whether they call it a "hate crime" or not. I don't know what good it does to invent labels like that - murder is murder.

The primary intent of hate-crime legislation and thus hate crime laws was to assure that crimes committed against marginalized peoples - for their being marginalized peoples - would be reported and subsequently investigated. As one can well-imagine, there are certain victims of crime that certain police officers and certain police agencies are not especially interested in investigating (chief amongst such people being LBGTQ people and black people).

Hate-crime laws, then, legally compel law enforcement agencies to report such crimes to the Department of Justice (DOJ), thereby enabling the DOJ to monitor the progress of the investigation of these crimes. Simply stated, prior to the enactment of hate crime laws, crimes committed against the likes of gay people - for their being gay, etc. - were often ignored by police precisely because these crimes were committed against gay people and the like. Hence, the need for hate crime legislation.

[Eddy Haskell]

Likely another example of a latent homosexual killing a gay person in order to further cover their latent homosexuality.

[vagabond]

They need stiffer penalties for murder, period.