[30564U]

Originally Posted by AriaDonna ↗

if this is true, can't someone sue for some kinda of negligence? I had watched a program recently about Danielle Thomas' murder and how the family was going to sue the police department because their daughter called for help an hour before she was actually killed by her boyfriend. she had been tortured for an hour waiting for help and no one showed. Also recently I watched talk shows about 911 calls that police didn't respond to quickly enough which resulted in lives lost and how the families were suing. I wasn't aware that police or firefighters actually had no duty to actually protect anyone when their job is based on protecting their communities. I did do a little bit of research and saw that was true. But I have seen so many stories recently about families suing for cases similar to this. Im sorry for your loss by the way. And that looks more like an arm :/

Yeah...it really sucks because it basically indemnifies the government from negligence. There might be exceptions, but I'm not aware of any...it's pretty well legally worn out. That's why most cops are so pro gun ownership...we know that in some cases there just isn't any way we can protect people. What's that old saying, "When seconds count, the police are minutes away." How or why Americans ever relinquished their God given (and Constitutionally guaranteed) right and duty to self protection is beyond me. We rely way too much on law enforcement to protect us...as Americans we have a duty to protect both ourselves, our families, and our neighbors. We keep giving up these rights by jacking around with the issue of gun control. Buy a gun, learn how to safely and effectively use it and get a permit to carry the damn thing 24/7. End of rant...sorry.

[tootsieflowrslave]

Originally Posted by gatagato ↗

If the settings of the smartphone used were correct, the photo was taken here, (North Dakota) on January 5, 2014 at 4:56:56PM, according to EXIF data.

Gatagato, I always admired your ability to pay attention to detail. Awesome stuff my friend!

[medicineman360]

When I was in the (volunteer) fire service, we were always told that we never HAD to respond... but once we did, we became liable, for any negligence, on our part.

[corpsehands]

that was one hell of a fire

[Tarot333]

Did he forget to pay the fee?

Firefighters in rural Tennessee let a home burn to the ground last week because the homeowner hadn't paid a $75 fee.
Gene Cranick of Obion County and his family lost all of their possessions in the Sept. 29 fire, along with three dogs and a cat.
"They could have been saved if they had put water on it, but they didn't do it," Cranick told MSNBC's Keith Olbermann.
The fire started when the Cranicks' grandson was burning trash near the family home. As it grew out of control, the Cranicks called 911, but the fire department from the nearby city of South Fulton would not respond.
"We wasn't on their list," he said the operators told him.
Cranick, who lives outside the city limits, admits he "forgot" to pay the annual $75 fee. The county does not have a county-wide firefighting service, but South Fulton offers fire coverage to rural residents for a fee.
Cranick says he told the operator he would pay whatever is necessary to have the fire put out.
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His offer wasn't accepted, he said.
The fire fee policy dates back 20 or so years.
"Anybody that's not inside the city limits of South Fulton, it's a service we offer. Either they accept it or they don't," said South Fulton Mayor David Crocker.
The fire department's decision to let the home burn was "incredibly irresponsible," said the president of an association representing firefighters.
"Professional, career firefighters shouldn’t be forced to check a list before running out the door to see which homeowners have paid up," Harold Schaitberger, International Association of Fire Fighters president, said in a statement. "They get in their trucks and go."
Firefighters did eventually show up, but only to fight the fire on the neighboring property, whose owner had paid the fee.

[Mr. Coprophilia]

I see Dahmer in the background with a bib and BBQ sauce

[Kelseecat65]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

He specifically said that the fire was on his rez. Which means he's a Native American on a designated tribal reservation.

Thank you for clarifying. I thought he meant residence, but now I see what he meant.
Wow, this is really sad. I can't believe they have no one to help in situations like this.

[30564U]

In the old days (1700's to early 1900's) especially on the East Coast around New York and larger cities, insurance companies issued the home/business owner a cast iron plate with a unique design indicating which insurance company carried the fire insurance for that building that was hung on the outside of the building. When fire fighters arrived on scene, they took the cast iron plate and put out the fire. The fire fighters then presented the cast iron plate to the correct insurance company to be paid for putting out the fire. Almost all US fire departments or companies were entirely volunteer. Not even big cities had regular paid professional fire fighters. Volunteer fire companies were in many cases nothing more than men's social clubs and at worst basic thugs used by politicians as enforcers. In many cases they were basically street gangs. Even today volunteer fire fighters far outnumber paid professional fire fighters by a 4 to 1 ratio. Only in recent times have fire fighters not charged in some way to put out a fire. Weird isn't it?

[Worn_and_wicked]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

The guy's a Native American. Pretty sure it was your people who jumped his fence rather than the other way around.

[Wench]

It always amazes me that what we sometimes intend to be harmless snark comes out so incredibly cruel.