[gboy69]

Originally Posted by Barton Farley ↗

Has anyone else noticed the lack of info concerning the fatal accident of Allan Simonsen at LeMans a few years ago. Only sketchy speculation and the in car video of the trailing Corvette and a spectator video and that's it.

there is footage somewhere on youtube

it is taken/shown from the inside of the corner where allan lost control on and shows the full impact

it is on a fatal accident tribute video, but i cannot remember which one. it is one that has the name of the victim during each accident

[Jerdipski]

On 8 September 2006, while driving in the Targa West '06 rally, Brock was 3 kilometres from the finish of the second stage of the race at Gidgegannup, about 40 km from Perth, Western Australia when he skidded off a downhill left-hand bend on Clenton Road for over 50 metres in his 2001 Daytona Sportscar and hit a tree. The 61-year-old Brock was killed instantly. His co-driver, Mick Hone, was taken to hospital in a serious but stable condition. Video footage of the crash (provided by a fan and the in-car camera) was reviewed by Western Australian police to help determine the cause of the accident. Coroner Alastair Hope decided that his death was caused by high speed and that no coronial inquest would be performed. Due to the high regard in which Brock was held by the Australian community at large, the video has never been released to the public.

[Jerdipski]

Another one of the vehicle..

[Jerdipski]

Motor racing legend Peter Brock died in the driver's seat of a Daytona sports coupe as his navigator Mick Hone pleaded with him - "Peter, Peter, talk to me, talk to me"

Sydney investment banker Les Andrews was one of about twenty-five spectators who watched Brock's vehicle round a slippery, sweeping bend just before midday
The car lost control, then ploughed sideways at speed into a tree just off the bitumen
As spectators stood stunned, Mr Andrews ran to the crash scene, opened the car door and held Brock's arm

"I took Peter's pulse from his left hand and I couldn't feel a pulse, and then I put Peter's hand in the navigator's" he told The Weekend Australian
Mr Andrews said Hone, who suffered substantial stomach injuries, was calling out to Brock to talk to him
"Eventually, after he kept on asking about Peter, I had to tell him his friend had passed away
I just stroked his shoulder and waited with him
Peter still had a tight grip with his other hand on the steering wheel, which I thought was quite surreal
You could see there was no hope for him because he was losing a lot of blood from his head
He looked very peaceful"

Late last night, the 61-year-old navigator was in a stable condition in Swan Districts Hospital
He was expected to be transferred to Royal Perth Hospital late last night, and police described his injuries as "not life-threatening"

[Jerdipski]

Brock, 61, the son of a mechanic and a nine-time winner of the Bathurst 1000 during the 1970s and 80s, is believed to have died instantly in the crash

He was the star attraction of the second Targa West rally, held in bushland near the small community of Gidgegannup, 40km east of Perth

The accident happened about 10km into the 13km leg of the first stage of the rally, which started yesterday morning and was due to run all weekend
Police have seized video footage taken by one of spectators
It took rescuers several hours to free Brock's body because the initial cutting and rescue equipment was inadequate

Targa officials refused to comment on the tragedy
Crash investigators were still at the scene last night

Brock's death has stunned the Australian motorsport community, and tributes were flowing in last night from political, sporting and community leaders across Australia

Witnesses said the rear of Brock's car started sliding to the right as it sped past them
Spectators estimated the vehicle was going about 90-95km/h, significantly faster than the cars that had gone before it
Brock managed to correct the slide, but lost control again before the vehicle slammed into a karri tree, and then lurched down into a shallow ditch

Brock and Hone were in the fourth-last car to set off on that leg

It is believed Brock had only arrived in Western Australia on Thursday night on a flight from England, where he had heavy racing commitments

Ross Dunkerton, a close friend who was ahead of Brock at the time of the accident, said the bend in question was a tricky piece of road and "Peter actually hadn't driven it before"
Drivers are allowed to travel the course in normal vehicles before the rally begins
"This event is unique
It's not a circuit like Bathurst, it's a situation where the road surfaces keep changing" he said
Dunkerton said he had "actually had that corner marked with a caution - whether or not Peter had that, I don't know"
"The situation with Peter was that he flew in, he hadn't driven it, it was raining and if you put all those things together ..." he said

News Limited motoring writer Neil Dowling was thirteen cars behind Brock when the accident happened
He said the conditions were moist and slippery and there had been another accident before Brock's in which a car rolled over, but no one was injured

The rally was suspended immediately after the accident and organisers will today consider whether to abandon the event

Locals said the bend was notorious and they had warned that it was only a matter of time before someone was killed trying to take it
The roads that wind through the bushland are closed to the public while the rally - which started yesterday morning - is under way

Drivers gathered at rally headquarters at the Burswood Dome at 4.00pm to receive counselling and a debriefing on the tragedy
Many were too upset to talk

Light rain had been falling all day in the hills area and all roads were very slippery, according to organisers
An organiser said the Daytona was a rear-wheel-drive, while many of the other vehicles were four-wheel-drive
"He was a great bloke and I have a lot of respect for him
He was a hero" the organiser said
He thought the rally should continue and believed Brock would have wanted it that way

[The Dark]

Lots to catch up on, most of the Indy crashes are pretty much documented somewhere.

From what I've seen/heard Renna's car hit the fence & pole on the bottom of the tub and the engine and rear of the car passed through the fence ending up causing damage to what was a section of grandstand dedicated to disabled seating, needless to say had this happened on race weekend it would have been horrific.

The version I heard said the tub and other parts were hanging in the fence and sadly Renna was not completely intact. Death was most definitely instantaneous.

As to the cause it was an odd crash, a dead bird carcass was found down on the 3rd turn infield, speculation was he hit it, lost control and the car rotated down into the grass and like all IRL Dallara's once it got air flowing at the rear it got upthrust rather than downforce and that's what pushed it up and floated it into the fence. I almost picture it a little bit like Wheldon's 2003 Indy 500 crash in how the car behaved.

Wheldon's Vegas crash showed enough graphic shots from far off to show helmet damage, with the hugely in-depth crash report also going into detail I don't believe much that we don't already know will be gained by digging further. I do believe he was absolutely beyond all help by the time they got to him, he may have had a pulse, but they knew they had no chance of saving him.

Wilson was killed by the nosecone, no doubt in my mind by that. I've read that the DW12 was notoriously tail happy, to balance that out they added weight to the front of the car, hence the heavy, solid nose sections. In addition plenty of crush material is in those to help protect the drivers feet & legs in the event of frontal impact, in fact one might believe that for Karam's crash it worked perfectly...... except for bouncing down the track right into an unsighted driver's path.

As for the lack of replays/close ups of the extraction it's pretty common knowledge that the medical team radios back the status of the driver, in the crashes of Wheldon & Wilson at best they'd have called in a code signifying very serious injury and the broadcasters know this and for obvious reasons cut away & use long shots. A bit like Greg Moore though, 1 live look at each crash was all it took to know it was very, very serious.

[The Dark]

Oops, been so long since I'd last replied I missed most of what I said about Renna was already here. Sorry about that! Consider it confirmation of what we actually seem to have out there.

[windowlicker]

Frank Bayles flips his Formula Ford during a race at Brands Hatch 1968.

[windowlicker]

George Bailey crashed his Miller during practice at the 1940 Indy 500 at turn two, the barrier rupturing the fuel tank and the car bursting into flames. George jumped out enveloped in flames, running towards a track photographer Eddie Hoff who attempted to help. Bailey would lose his life soon afterwards with third degree burns.

George took part in five races at the Brickyard from 1934 to '39, his best start being 6th in 1939, which was also the first rear engine car to qualify there and his best finish 12th in 1938.

[jeremycrpntr]

Part of the description I received about the injuries to Renna, in the previously aforementioned Rescue personnel's own words were "It looked like a terrible shark attack"