[windowlicker]

Pablo Luis Pesatti sits dead in his Alfa Romeo 8C-35 after crashing during the 1948 VIII Gran Premio Otoño road race in Argentina. He lost it in the wet hitting a tree and suffered fatal chest and head injuries.

[Stormin' Norvin]

Originally Posted by windowlicker ↗

Ed was certainly one of the most controversial drivers ever to take to the race track...a number of incidents took place during his career that brought criticism not only from the press but from his fellow drivers.

I feel that a lot of the 'incidents' he was involved in were racing accidents that he was used as a scapegoat for. It was interesting to view his move on Dick Rathmann, there's a very good quality colour video on You Tube. His move on the inside of turn three appears clean but perhaps too fast and too deep with cold tyres and a full fuel load. I can understand some of the criticism, a good man in Pat O'Connor was lost due to a rash move on the first lap of a 500 mile race, but the vilification and open hatred of Ed seemed harsh to say the least.

There are rumours that Ed had put a big wager on leading the first lap and this is why he was trying to force an early move on Dick but these are nothing more than rumour. It is worth remembering that Ed had qualified in second place for the race and clearly had the most competitive car he had ever had at the brickyard and he felt that he could have a chance to win his first race at the top level.

Perhaps not an all round gentleman then but stopping an undamaged race car to help a fellow driver should not be forgotten either...and a truely horrible death for a hard and determined racer.

These observations are just my humble opinion and its good that this site should have debate on it.

Ed took part in five Indy 500 races with a best result of 12th in 1957 and best qualifying of 7th the same year. Elisian's best result in 29 races was 3rd at Langhorne in '59.

Am I missing something? The last paragraph sounds contradictory. Didn't Ed Elisian qualify 2nd in 1958 for the Indy 500 like you said a few paragraphs before?

[Stormin' Norvin]

Originally Posted by windowlicker ↗

I've never seen any Markus Höttinger photos before, nice posts. Its interesting that John Surtees died in the exact same way twenty nine years later in an F2 race at Brands Hatch....

Not John but his son Henry Surtees.

[Stormin' Norvin]

Originally Posted by Stormin' Norvin ↗

Thanks for this thread guys. This thread made me become a paid member and this is my first post. I am on page 80 of these 313 pages of awesome. Still going :)

Just finished all of the now 314 pages of this thread. Amazing. I love the stories told just as much as the pictures and videos. For me, it is an interest of seeing what went wrong.

[Stormin' Norvin]

Charlie Jarzombek is killed during the 1987 Miller 200:

[Stormin' Norvin]

Live footage of the aftermath of Mike Burgmann's tragic accident at the 1986 Bathurst 1000. No known footage of the actual crash exists:

[windowlicker]

Yeah my mistake Stormin' Norvin, Elisian's best qualifying performance at the Brickyard was 2nd and of course it was John Surtees son Henry who tragically lost his live during an F2 race at Brands Hatch....

[Stormin' Norvin]

Originally Posted by windowlicker ↗

Yeah my mistake Stormin' Norvin, Elisian's best qualifying performance at the Brickyard was 2nd and of course it was John Surtees son Henry who tragically lost his live during an F2 race at Brands Hatch....

No worries. There needs to be an EDIT button for posts. I just figured I would point it out for future readers.

[Laniebell]

That was my personal breaking point. I still occasionally watch a race here and there, but I lost the love after this immolation.

[TheFallOfTroyML]

fia f3 race in austria had a horiffic crash involving ryan tveter, who spun out and left a cloud of dust for zhi chong li, who went airborne and was airlifted to hospital for treatment. media say there are broken bones, but not life-threatening