[Vedderman]

Yes, sphincters do sometimes relax in death, but often times not until several hours later. This process is called 'primary flaccidity.'

Asphyxiation-related deaths, however, are a bit different. They result in loss of bladder (and sometimes bowel) control far more frequently than any other time of death. Observations of hanging executions and remarks made by first-hand participants in strangulations (numerous killers have commented on the process over the years) indicate that this evacuation often happens even before actual death occurs. Typically about 30 seconds before death, the subject of a violent strangulation will wet their pants. In fact, part of law enforcement training almost anywhere in the US instructs officers responding to domestic violence calls to look for signs of the victim urinating in her pants and inquiring if it happened, even if there is no visual evidence. This is used as a sign to let the officers know how severe the choking was and whether or not the woman's life is actually likely to be in danger.

I have a copy of a study done by some Danish forensics pathologists back in the 1980's which focuses on the effects of strangulation both in survivors and in dead bodies. The study included a large number of hanging suicide victims. Their study, conducted over the course of several years on a total of 77 cadavers showed that over 60% of them completely emptied their bladders while dying. Several more had partial releases, but 60%+ had totally empty bladders at autopsy.

This was compared to their cadaver control group, which included people who had died non-violent, non-strangulation deaths and they found the bladder evacuation to occur in only 14%.

So there is something in particular about hanging/strangulation that results in complete loss of bladder control. Much of it includes pressure on on the carotid artery and the vagal nerve bundle, both of which result in nerve communication being cut off between the brain and the bladder.

Of course some of it may also be that strangulation is a particularly slow method of death. You know you're going to die before you actually do and often times the stress, fear, and panic of that situation cause a bladder release, as well. You'll notice in many of the photos in this thread that the womens' hands are clutched around the noose, indicating that they had second thoughts and tried to remove the ligature before they died. Fairly good chance that they were wetting their pants while doing so.

[mort999]

Thank you for a highly interesting post. The standard danish forensic textbook for medical students (available at some public libraries) says the same as the study, which I did not know, that emptying of bladder and bowels often happens in strangulations, and sometimes even before dead.

[anna-pi]

and now back to the pics

[bazoozoo_52]

Originally Posted by abeldoorn ↗

and now back to the pics

I'm trying! Things are starting to dry up. It's feast or famine!

[thissiteisfuckedup]

alot of women have hung themselves ! wow, some are that desperate to die they just use what quick makeshift method they can find.crazy

[Vedderman]

A small update, but things have been slow on the hanging front lately. Lots of hanged girls, but very few photos.

The smaller picture is of a journalist in Mexico who was found in a Mexico City park a few days ago, along with another female journalist. They were both nude, raped, gagged, and asphyxiated with nooses around their necks. They were no longer hanging when found, but the assumption based on the asphyxia and nooses was that they had been previously.

Larger photo is of the other (younger) journalist. Her body is mostly obscured, but you can still see the hang-rope trailing out from under the tarp.

[bazoozoo_52]

Hanged in Romania. Think it's new..

[DevilsPlayThing]

[jdub]

As the ol' saying goes take ur piss/shit before u go, DUMBASSES!

[Faline]

Nakashipara, July 26: In a ghastly incident a 12-years-old girl was allegedly raped and murdered by unidentified assailants late on Saturday night Bahirgachi-Bhattacharjee Para under Dharmada panchayet in Nakashipara. Body of the victim, identified as Rupa Biswas found hanging with kameej in an isolated bamboo orchard early on Sunday morning. The victim was a student of class six in the local Muragacha Subadoni High School. Preliminary investigation revealed that she was strangulated to death after rape.

The incident created wide resentment in the area. Initially the angry locals did not allow the police to recover the body demanding immediate investigation using the sniffer dogs. Repeated persuasion by senior police personnel including additional SP Annappa E failed to evoke response. The body could be recovered only after sniffer dogs were arrived during the afternoon. However, the dogs failed to provide any breakthrough. It ran towards wetland and then came back.

As a result the sleuths so far could not arrest anybody suspected to have any involvement into the incident. In fact, the sleuths appear to be in totally dark. After recovering the body, it was sent to post mortem.

According to local sources, at about 8.30 PM on Saturday night Rupa left home to attend a marriage reception at the residence of neighbor Sristidhar Ghosh. She was scheduled to go along with a neighbor's child Ronnie. However, she did not go there at all. Most probably she was kidnapped on the way which nobody could possibly noticed in the darkness.

Her father Subodh Biswas and others tried to find out her till late in the night, but failed. On Sunday morning Uday Ghosh, a local found her body hanging inside the bamboo orchard in a naked state with her dupatta. Her slippers were found at a nearby distance while her attires were also found in an adjacent place.

Locals claimed that the body actually dumped in the orchard after committing the crime in other place.

Additional SP Annappa E said: “We will be trying our best to look into all possible aspect to find the persons who are behind this ghastly crime.”

Meanwhile, Gayatri Sardar, a member of Nadia Zilla Parishad and a senior CPI (M) leader has condemned the incident. She has demanded that police should act with alacrity to find out the culprits and ensure exemplary punishment for them.