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01-04-2022, 05:11 PM
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Re: Dead Turkish Girl
For those who are telling me to F-off for pointing something like this ‘pro-beauty’ bias out: Recognizing in oneself these both evolutionary and societally engrained biases toward beauty, especially that of young women in their reproductive primes, especially by heterosexual men, is a necessary first step toward ensuring its not allowed to shape our behaviors and expectations in unethical and societally deleterious ways. From an evolutionary and practical utilitarian perspective, such a loss / death ‘feels’ more wasteful because it WAS more wasteful for many thousands of years of human evolutionary history. It’s the same dynamic that has made men seem more disposable (and their deaths feel less impactful generally.) It’s not right or wrong, it just is.
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01-04-2022, 08:21 PM
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Re: Dead Turkish Girl
sorry, but you are just dribbling now beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and it also not limited to what people perceive as physical beauty just because you might not be sad for this woman's death if she was fat and ugly, many people would be, so your point is both ridiculous and redundant |
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01-05-2022, 12:46 AM
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Re: Dead Turkish Girl
That’s not actually true. There are virtually universal human biases toward youth, symmetry, and absence of outward signs of malformation and disease, facial dimensions within the center of the bell curve. You act as if beauty is some completely arbitrary thing while researchers have shown that across cultures and over generations it’s just not, with these aspects of ‘beauty’ being a highly stable and conserved under widely varying conditions. While environment and conditioning can accomplish quite a bit, for most people it hasn’t.
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01-05-2022, 12:57 AM
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Re: Dead Turkish Girl
And now you’re just tilting at strawmen. Some folks must just be all butthurt about being ugly lol… I never said I wouldn’t be sad if she was fat and ugly. In fact my first statement was to point out that this very common bias towards outward beauty is kinda messed up but nonetheless exists. When someone is a ‘well formed’ looking human, and all we know about the person is what they look like, then the violent destruction of the ‘well formed looking’ person tends to strike people as especially wasteful and sad. The beautiful person being killed is just as sad as the ugly one being killed, PLUS it entails the loss of something beautiful. There was no judgement implied about her non-superficial ‘beauty’ attributes, though if we knew about those dimensions of beauty we could be sad about them too, but we don’t so we can’t. Your assumption here was thus unsupported. |