[Pogrom]

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[DiamondSmiles]

Until I started visiting gore sites, I thought you needed a few feet under your body to hang yourself, along with a stool. Anything will do, if you have something to go around your neck to support your body weight.

[JoeS1981]

[Vedderman]

Just updating this thread with some stuff from the last 5 months. Most of these pics exist elsewhere on the site in their own threads, but I like to keep this one fairly current for those who find it interesting.

[Vedderman]

And here is an interesting bit of factual data. Because I post a lot of postmortem urination photos and because most of them are women, I have been asked many times on this board whether or not the rate of bladder release is similar between men and women. I always reply, with varying degrees of data, that the instance rate is higher in women, which is why I find so many more female photos with wet pants.

While perusing science and medical journals last week, I came across a French study concluded two years ago that actually focused on this specific issue. It was restricted to asphyxiation cases (hanging, manual, ligature, etc), but gives a pretty good breakdown of bladder activity during asphyxiation deaths. Here is the text from the article's abstract, translated from French:

Autopsy cases of victims over 10 years of age in which the cause of death was asphyxia due to constriction of the neck were collected from four medical schools during recent 10 years. We picked up 132 cases which reported urine volume in the bladder in each autopsy report. Classifying the means in the cases, 83 were caused by ligature strangulation (strangulation group), 17 were by manual strangulation (throttling group), 12 were by hanging (hanging group), and 20 were by unknown or mixed methods (other group). The number of female was more than that of male in each group, especially all but one were females in throttling group. The majority of 46 females in strangulation group were under 50 ml in the bladder. On the contrary, about a half of 37 males were over 50 ml. In the other three groups, most of both males and females were under 50 ml in the bladder. Of all cases, the cases with over 200 ml were 14 (8 males and 6 females), and 11 out of those were in strangulation group, 2 in hanging and 1 in other. In 42 of 132 cases information about the presence or absence of urinary incontinence was obtained through police. Almost all cases (38 of 42) showed urinary incontinence at the death scene. Eighteen of 38 had empty bladder (17 females and 1 male). The rest 20 cases, however, had not empty bladder though they had urinary incontinence.

I wish to clarify, by the way, that the average human bladder can comfortably hold over 500 mL of urine and can uncomfortably hold almost twice that. So when they mention that the vast majority of cadavers studied had <50mL in their bladder at the time of autopsy, that is actually a very miniscule amount. The kidneys fill the bladder at a rate of 10mL every 5 minutes or so, so unless they went to the toilet 15-20 mins before asphyxiating, they peed their pants.

It does conclusively show that, while urination is common amongst all instances of asphyxiation deaths, it is both more common in women and women tend to pee out a lot more. Many of the dead men you see may have wet underpants, but didn't pee out enough to soak through their trousers, where as women are more likely to saturate themselves while dying. Hopefully that serves to answer, to some limited extent, the question that I am so often asked when I post these photos.

[Faline]

Few i have i'll add, I may have some more on my PC hard-drive

[Spiffyfable]

That's Nothing.... before I got sober, I used to do that almost daily

[Vedderman]

Just updating this thread a bit, as I tend to do every 6-12 months or so.

[dEAD mICHAEL]

Great Thread!

Just goes to show, when you gotta go, you gotta GO!

Aint it a pisser?

[coco-noptik]

some nice pissing pants