[lobo221]

Good - if you are innocent then you dont have to fear police - that's all it is... and all that " I have right's" bullshit is just that - a bullshit - you have right's to not be an idiot but most videos on this site proves that people are just stupid. Like walking on pedestrian crossing without actually looking if it's safe just becouse you have a green light - we'll on your grave there will be sign "He was right and the driver was wrong!"... use your brain people...

[Evil Twin]

Seriously? You guys think this was a clean shoot? At no point was the officer's life or safety in danger. When Dubose put the car in gear and attempted to flee, the cop's left hand was not entrapped in any way in the vehicle, and he reached across with his right arm into the window opening to fire. It was a very deliberate action. The guy was not trying to run the officer over, and no reasonable person can argue that he was.

The only time an officer is permitted to use deadly force in a case such as this is when a perp is attempting to use a vehicle as a weapon, and the officer is not permitted to intentionally put himself in line with the vehicle, and then use self defense as an excuse as to why he fired on the suspect driving the vehicle. This was definitely NOT justifiable force.

[M.F.D.B.]

Originally Posted by Evil Twin ↗

Seriously? You guys think this was a clean shoot? At no point was the officer's life or safety in danger. When Dubose put the car in gear and attempted to flee, the cop's left hand was not entrapped in any way in the vehicle, and he reached across with his right arm into the window opening to fire. It was a very deliberate action. The guy was not trying to run the officer over, and no reasonable person can argue that he was.

The only time an officer is permitted to use deadly force in a case such as this is when a perp is attempting to use a vehicle as a weapon, and the officer is not permitted to intentionally put himself in line with the vehicle, and then use self defense as an excuse as to why he fired on the suspect driving the vehicle. This was definitely NOT justifiable force.

You made ZERO new claims that have been stated before. A car is a deadly weapon and the video shows the cop skidding on the pavement.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes...

[Evil Twin]

Originally Posted by M.F.D.B. ↗

You made ZERO new claims that have been stated before. A car is a deadly weapon and the video shows the cop skidding on the pavement.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes...

Your first statement doesn't make any sense. Of course a new claim cannot have been stated before. That's what makes it a new claim! I was not attempting to make any new claims, just pointing out what should have been obvious.

Yes, a car can be a deadly weapon, to anyone who may be in the line of travel of the vehicle. However, the officer was nowhere near being in the line of travel of the vehicle and was therefore in no danger, and therefore had no right to shoot the man.

He wasn't touching the car when it started to move. It is not possible that he could have been skidding from being dragged by the car, if that's what you are insinuating. If he moved at all, it wasn't because he was dragged, it was because of him reaching across with his right arm to shoot the guy and then stumbled afterward.

That's like saying you have the right to defend yourself against the man shooting in the lane next to you at a shooting range just because he was shooting along side of you. This guy was attempting to drive along side the officer. Same exact level of danger.

See how crazy it sounds when you compare it to the far-fetched shooting range example? It's an accurate example, just far-fetched for someone to think they had the right to defend themselves with deadly force when they were in no danger.

[nyazzip]

Originally Posted by >< 0300, infantry >< ↗

Got a blood off the streets, no loss... sad it went down that way

yup, another dumb ass thug, drinking, driving a conspicuously illegal vehicle, driving with no license, and obstructing/evading a simple line of questioning, then fleeing....wtf do these people expect? of course he shouldn't have been shot, but that is a situation any normal person would have easily been able to avoid getting in to.
...and that cute matching outfit was obviously gangbanger colors- he didn't just really like the color red.

[IIvIIRRIIvII]

Originally Posted by bike1941 ↗

he had no reguard for this guys life, just decided to end his life for no reason,,, police officer was not in any danger...

Sorry for the late response, don't come here often. I, too, didn't at first think shooting the guy was necessary, but after watching some footage I have to say this cop did the right thing. I never thought you could get run over while standing near the side of the vehicle. You can, easily. Look up videos on youtube of officers getting run over during traffic stops. Also you need to consider that this "victim" was acting erratic. Not only was he a threat to himself and the officer he could have easily sped out of there and hurt someone else. While I believe in judging things on a case by case basis if somebody is pulled over, acts erratic, refuses to cooperate and tries to make a run for it, the officer should be allowed to use deadly force. The officer has to consider not only his life and the detained, but all the other people this guy can endanger with his vehicle.

[lion]

That pig knows he fucked up tryin to say his arm got caught up on the steering wheel somehow the camera don't lie only u do the d a gonna lock ur ass up in the pokey

[murofhsirgo]

no id, no compliance= unidentified, fleeing driver.
Sorry to hear about all his kids though:(

[murofhsirgo]

just noticed "university of cinn. police officer" phuk

[Violentviolins]

Originally Posted by IIvIIRRIIvII ↗

The officer knew something was wrong with this guy because....obviously something was. He said it was his car, but it was his wife's. At 20 seconds in he turn's his vehicle off with his right hand (remember this part) and reaches into the glove box for his license plate. It's not just stupid to keep your license plate in your glove box, but also to reach for it without telling the officer what you're doing first. Samuel acts like he is intoxicated throughout the whole ordeal, ignoring the officers questioning about the license. When asked what the bottle is on the floor of his driver's side Samuel gives the officer a bottle of Barton Gin and say's that it's an air freshener?

Suspecting Samuel may try to flee the scene and needing to verify his identity the officer asks Samuel to take his seatbelt off as he goes to open his door. While doing so you can hear Samuel say "I didn't even do nothin' immediately afterwards at 1:53 turns the ignition on, attempting to flee. The officer reaches into the vehicle to try to turn the vehicle off. Because of how shaky the cam was it's hard to determine how the officer's hand got stuck, if at all. How likely is it to get run over when standing on the side of the vehicle? I don't know. What I do know is that officer wasn't going to take that chance and that's why I believe the officer chose to fire.

I don't think the officer was in the wrong. Samuel made a costly decision when he turned his ignition on in an attempt to flee.

You dont have a right too shoot someome for fleeing on such a minor offence. As it was stated he should have let him roll on. Wheres the logicin killing someone? Try and justify it and all you can come up with are what if situations.