[Rfneimad]

Originally Posted by OmniJackal ↗

Why they acting like bitches then?

Killing enemy soldiers is their job, even if they are wounded.

[Rfneimad]

Remember, Hitler was wounded in WWI.

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by OmniJackal ↗

Why does Ukraine keep droning mostly dead soldiers to make them more deader? The number of times I’ve seen drones go after a guy on a stretcher or a maimed dude with one leg and half a prayer is way more than I can count. Which is only 3 but still it’s really hard to see a difference between the two sides so I support myself. I stand with Omni. I don’t kill seriously wounded soldiers being medevac’d. So I’m better than all of them. And some day I’ll count to whatever, if anything, comes after 3.

Great question.

You also don't invade other countries. You don't invade that country and then systematically torture and kill its innocent civilians. You don't take another country's children from their homes and families, many who you have killed, to bring them to your country by the thousands to indoctrinate them as your own. You don't indiscriminately bomb the daylights out of schools, residential buildings, public transportation hubs, hospitals, and cultural centers killing anything and anyone inside. You don't perpetrate other war crimes on another country's military as you are invading their land and killing their civilians. Russia has done all of this.

I don't know for sure if any of that is the reason Ukraine goes after injured Russian soldiers... but if your goal is trying to stop an invading army on furthering its mission to do everything I mentioned above, your main goal would be to send a mother fucking message. If you come here for war and we find you, you will be killed or captured.

I am more on the Ukrainian side of this conflict as I think Russia invading another country for all the reasons it claims is fundamentally wrong but regardless of my bias, it's not easy watching any of these young men and women get injured or killed as they do their government's bidding.

[OmniJackal]

Originally Posted by Rfneimad ↗

Remember, Hitler was wounded in WWI.

NGL that’s a brutally simple but damn good point no smart/sane person could ignore.

I’m just not sure I could justify finishing people off with a drone. Like the guys on the line you’ll see them put a few more rounds in bodies as they take trenches. They’re still immediate threats. But some dude being dragged out who isn’t even armed is a threat to no one. To speculate that a wounded soldier could become the next Hitler invites speculation that drone bombing drone bombed soldiers could radicalize one too or any number of infinite scenarios.

[OmniJackal]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Great question.

You also don't invade other countries. You don't invade that country and then systematically torture and kill its innocent civilians. You don't take another country's children from their homes and families, many who you have killed, to bring them to your country by the thousands to indoctrinate them as your own. You don't indiscriminately bomb the daylights out of schools, residential buildings, public transportation hubs, hospitals, and cultural centers killing anything and anyone inside. You don't perpetrate other war crimes on another country's military as you are invading their land and killing their civilians. Russia has done all of this.

I don't know for sure if any of that is the reason Ukraine goes after injured Russian soldiers... but if your goal is trying to stop an invading army on furthering its mission to do everything I mentioned above, your main goal would be to send a mother fucking message. If you come here for war and we find you, you will be killed or captured.

I am more on the Ukrainian side of this conflict as I think Russia invading another country for all the reasons it claims is fundamentally wrong but regardless of my bias, it's not easy watching any of these young men and women get injured or killed as they do their government's bidding.

So in a nutshell you’re saying morally dubious/illegal/cowardly acts are fine as a form a defense. Do you draw a line anywhere? Torture? Genocide? Tit for tat eye for an eye right? If the Russians do it then it’s ok if the Ukrainians do it. So if the Russians did all of the above then you’re saying Ukraine doing them too is a justified means to an end?

If my goal is to stop an army I’m not going to waste drones on people being sent home in pieces. I’m going to make more people in pieces to send home or worse. Feel me?

Appreciate ya as always mother dear.

[OmniJackal]

Oh and just to play the devil’s advocate against myself, I do realize a soldier with his legs blown off from a drone is still a soldier and could easily be rotated into a drone pilot position if needed.

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by OmniJackal ↗

So in a nutshell you’re saying morally dubious/illegal/cowardly acts are fine as a form a defense. Do you draw a line anywhere? Torture? Genocide? Tit for tat eye for an eye right? If the Russians do it then it’s ok if the Ukrainians do it. So if the Russians did all of the above then you’re saying Ukraine doing them too is a justified means to an end?

If my goal is to stop an army I’m not going to waste drones on people being sent home in pieces. I’m going to make more people in pieces to send home or worse. Feel me?

Appreciate ya as always mother dear.

My lines would have been drawn at invading another country but that's just me. I am not ok with torture and genocide. I loathe any person or group of persons trying to control another. That's why I'm an atheist. That's why reading shit jkesil spews about erecting borders around Russia and controlling them all based on his narrow views makes me sick.

But there is offense and defense in this war. It's kind of a "don't start none, won't be none" kind of situation. Fuck around and find out, if you will.

Both sides have committed war crimes but Russia, being the invading force has done it a hell of a lot more. Doesn't make any of it "right".

This conflict has been taking place for 10 years... and tensions have always been high in the region. Within the scope of modern history, Russia has been invading this land since the 1700's (and many others). Only when the Soviet Union collapsed in the early 90's did Ukraine regain its independence again. It's an extremely complicated history with too many plot twists to count. But the hardest part for me to fathom is all of the innocent people caught in the middle on both sides.

But to answer your question, if were up to me, there would have been no war to begin with but I have zero input on what Putin and Zelensky do or how they command their armies.

And thank you. I appreciate the civil dialog, always.

[Lookdavook]

dont mind me, just came here to laugh at the retards that really thought Ukranda would win

[ride]

Originally Posted by Lookdavook ↗

dont mind me, just came here to laugh at the retards that really thought Ukranda would win

Even if the entire UA military were to surrender at this very second and Zelinsky were strung up in Kyiv Town Square, they have still won. Call it a moral victory, David v. Goliath, tortoise and hare, what have you - almost a half-million Russian invaders took their last breath on Ukrainian soil. The sunflowers will have plenty of fertilizer.

Gloat all you want, but be wary. It ain't over until my ex-wife sings.

[TehOperator]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

You don't indiscriminately bomb the daylights out of schools, residential buildings, public transportation hubs, hospitals, and cultural centers killing anything and anyone inside.

We dropped the bomb. It ended the war. I'm sure poo tin assume the same thing with a war of attrition.

As for the dying soldiers - watch that YouTube video. They say that they can't really take prisoners in a operation - but you can't chance the guy shooting you either - and do what needs to be done.